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No investigations of ousted White House aide Vindman: U.S. Army secretary
Reuters ^ | February 14, 2020

Posted on 02/14/2020 11:58:59 AM PST by Coronal

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To: central_va
"There[sic] career is over..." Ok, ok, point taken. :-)

"Their career is over..."

41 posted on 02/14/2020 1:18:42 PM PST by billyboy15
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To: rollo tomasi

Your post is a feckless waste of time.


42 posted on 02/14/2020 1:18:56 PM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: bert

No it has not. Still a dynamic situation and he has clearance issues from being fired from NSC. Stop believing media spin.


43 posted on 02/14/2020 1:20:57 PM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: billyboy15; All
Interesting if true. OTOH, if the permanent government wants to give DJT the finger, including Vindman in the US Army War College Class of 2021, would certainly be a good gambit. War College graduates are considered certain picks for the next higher rank. So Vindman would be on track to be an O-6. Pretty good for a Foreign Area Specialist , who usually top out at LTC. Vindman must have pretty powerful friends with stars on their shoulders if he does go to AWC.That would truly send a signal within the Army as to who i running the show, and who you better not cross. DJT would have to specifically tell the Se. Army that as President he wanted this particular officer retired immediately. Big media screaming event to follow. This is something to watch closely.
44 posted on 02/14/2020 1:24:29 PM PST by robowombat (Orthodox)
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I would add that the President tell the Sec. Army to fire any general who complains about Vindman’s dismissal.


45 posted on 02/14/2020 1:28:25 PM PST by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual and political hemlock)
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To: robowombat
"Pretty good for a Foreign Area Specialist , who usually top out at LTC. Vindman must have pretty powerful friends with stars on their shoulders if he does go to AWC.

No matter who is friends are and how many stars they have on their shoulder they all answer to the President and CIC

That would truly send a signal within the Army as to who i running the show, and who you better not cross.

Do you know of any General Officer in history who could fire a President? Do you have any idea how many General Officers have been fired by Presidents? As officers rise in rank they become more and more political in how they approach their jobs and in order to make rank they need approval at the highest levels. General Officers in particular need to be approved for promotion by Congress but the President can stop that from happening as well as fire anyone of them.....just like Obama did (157).

DJT would have to specifically tell the Se. Army that as President he wanted this particular officer retired immediately. Big media screaming event to follow. This is something to watch closely.

This link explains the power of the President as CIC. The press can scream all it wants to no avail. Have you ever known Trump to run from a fight? Also at the link you will see why any General Officer relieved of duty wouldn't challenge the President and why none of the other officers would imperil their own careers defending him.

https://sites.duke.edu/lawfire/2016/09/15/can-presidents-fire-senior-military-officers-generally-yesbut-its-complicated/

46 posted on 02/14/2020 1:40:54 PM PST by billyboy15
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To: txnativegop

“I would add that the President tell the Sec. Army to fire any general who complains about Vindman’s dismissal.”

Trust me when I say you will never hear a word from any active duty Officer in support of Vindmen. The retired “arm chair warriors will way in for sure but that is all.

The UCMJ specifically forbids members subject to it’s code to make any statements critical to any politician at all.


47 posted on 02/14/2020 1:45:34 PM PST by billyboy15
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To: billyboy15

Listen as an ex military guy I can tell you that investigation or not this creep and his brother are radioactive to members of the military.


Radioactive? LOL. Vindman will be decorated before this is over by the Trump hating military brass. Order of Glory of The Resistance or some such new decoration.


48 posted on 02/14/2020 1:54:50 PM PST by lodi90
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To: lodi90

Vindmen AND his brother will “retire” within 6-8 months. You seem unaware of the power of the CIC.

Take a look at what even Ostupid managed to do just because he wanted to.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/197-military-officers-purged-by-obama/


49 posted on 02/14/2020 2:01:02 PM PST by billyboy15
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To: billyboy15

All the officers that got their stars under Obama got many promotions under Bush, too. It’s wishful thinking to fob their insubordination and worse off as an obama problem. The rot in the military brass is far deeper, unfortunately.


50 posted on 02/14/2020 2:04:02 PM PST by lodi90
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To: Coronal

Nothing a little blanket party can’t fix...hehehe...


51 posted on 02/14/2020 2:08:48 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat
the leftists have had yrs and yrs to place yes men into key positions for them to control......

and, the military has gotten so soft, so fuzzy wuzzy with officers full of degrees in poly sci,communications, and "leadership" they forgot about patriotism, character, and ethics and morals and you can forget about actual courage to do the right thing....

do away with military pensions....thin the ranks of these parasites....

52 posted on 02/14/2020 2:14:41 PM PST by cherry
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To: lodi90

Not sure what your point is. All I am saying is if Trump wants these guys gone, they will be gone. He is the CIC and can fire ANY military personnel he chooses. He can, with a phone cal stop the career of any military personnel.


53 posted on 02/14/2020 2:15:36 PM PST by billyboy15
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To: Vendome
Unexpected...

Really? Why?

54 posted on 02/14/2020 2:17:16 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: billyboy15

I know, but the UCMJ is selectively enforced these days it seems. Generals should be held to account for the officers beneath them since it is the general’s job to bring that officer along career wise.


55 posted on 02/14/2020 2:19:11 PM PST by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual and political hemlock)
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To: DoodleDawg

/S

Standard response to absurdities under Obama like, Lener not suffering consequences etc


56 posted on 02/14/2020 2:20:50 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: txnativegop

Have been out of the military for many years but whether or not the UCMJ is selectively enforced or not it is a fact the President can do as he pleases with regards to firing any member of the Military.


57 posted on 02/14/2020 2:26:14 PM PST by billyboy15
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To: Coronal

Only Marines recognize POTUS as their Commander & Chief. The others only recognize chain of command.


58 posted on 02/14/2020 3:25:14 PM PST by Lopeover (Patriots Fight)
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To: Major Matt Mason

No kidding! Unbelievable. There is no justice in this country.


59 posted on 02/14/2020 4:28:15 PM PST by Pining_4_TX ("Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods." ~ H.L. Mencken)
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Dereliction of duty to not charge Him with violation of article 88 of the UCMJ.


60 posted on 02/14/2020 6:59:02 PM PST by USCG SimTech
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