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Why the 2020 presidential campaign polls are misleading
NY Post ^ | February 13 2020 | John Ziegler

Posted on 02/13/2020 11:35:03 PM PST by knighthawk

One of the biggest mistakes that political analysts, especially those who spend a lot of time on Twitter, often make is they assume voters are as engaged in the process as they, or their audiences, are.

The reality is that, largely due to media fragmentation, the “average” (more accurately, “median”) voter is even less educated in comparison to us news junkies, who have never had more information instantly available than what we can easily ­access today.

Consequently, at least half of the massive electorate for a presidential general election has been, whether we like it or not, paying very little, if any, attention to the race at this point. Any information they have gleaned from all the media coverage of specifically the Democratic contest has been largely by accident, and their base of knowledge would be roughly that of what the least enthusiastic person at the Super Bowl party you just attended possessed about the ­Kansas City Chiefs.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 2020; polls
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To: Jim Noble

Ok, then I will look forward to future updates. Will you share your thoughts on the general at this point in time?


21 posted on 02/14/2020 6:50:29 AM PST by JerseyDvl ("If you're going through hell, keep going.")
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To: proud American in Canada

Gotta agree.

Someone I know was religiously following and wanting to talk about the RAT “debates.” I asked her, “Why bother? You’re going to vote for whoever runs against Trump anyway.”
Got a vacant stare in response.

In over 50 years of voting, I have NEVER been swayed OR convinced by any campaign ad.

Campaigns are nothing but HUGE money laundering enterprises.


22 posted on 02/14/2020 7:04:39 AM PST by Roccus (Prima di ogni altra cosa, siate armati!)
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To: trebb

Yes. I’ll have to read that Dean Koontz book. It sounds really good. I have to say it must be quite confusing to be an actor or actress. At some point you must not even know who you are anymore. I mean it must be like a form of mental illness, in a way. It’s very strange. It’s like giving your soul to the devil for money...


23 posted on 02/14/2020 7:11:44 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Iran: I hate your country... You are the vomit that comes out of pigs after they eat their own filth)
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To: Bearshouse

Yes. Biting my tongue it’s all I can do with my extremely liberal sister. She lives near Madison Wisconsin, I suppose ‘nuff said.


24 posted on 02/14/2020 7:13:31 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Iran: I hate your country... You are the vomit that comes out of pigs after they eat their own filth)
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To: albie

Holy cow. That is so sad. We used to have civility in this country. Apparently not anymore.

My gosh what are sports teams whose home colour is red going to do about this problem? *A sad LOL*


25 posted on 02/14/2020 7:17:42 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Iran: I hate your country... You are the vomit that comes out of pigs after they eat their own filth)
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To: jazminerose

Great news! And no Mr. President, we will never get tired of winning. Nor will the country, the entire country, the ones who are too afraid to say that they support you.


26 posted on 02/14/2020 7:19:02 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Iran: I hate your country... You are the vomit that comes out of pigs after they eat their own filth)
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To: KarlInOhio

Also, another problem, is that most people have given up landlines for cell phones. My husband did and he is 55!


27 posted on 02/14/2020 7:20:13 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Iran: I hate your country... You are the vomit that comes out of pigs after they eat their own filth)
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To: trebb

By the way, The Good Doctor is a great show. The actor on it was in Bates Motel, I think.


28 posted on 02/14/2020 7:21:35 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Iran: I hate your country... You are the vomit that comes out of pigs after they eat their own filth)
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To: Jim Noble

I must disagree, Mr Noble. I think it will be Trump in a landslide. Choosing the Democrat opponent oh, well that is going to be a nail biter, at least it looks all right now.


29 posted on 02/14/2020 7:23:35 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Iran: I hate your country... You are the vomit that comes out of pigs after they eat their own filth)
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To: Roccus
In over 50 years of voting, I have NEVER been swayed OR convinced by any campaign ad.

I would really enjoy spending a few hours with you explaining why your statement is not correct.

Advertising does not work with the rational mind, it is designed to "persuade" you at the emotional and subliminal level.

It uses symbols, archtypes, double meanings, hidden sexual taboos and practices, and hypnotic techniques to persuade.

If you want to read further, here are some links:

https://adage.com/article/news/marketers-tap-secret-research-weapon-hypnosis/235424

A more academic article:

https://www.acrwebsite.org/volumes/7267/volumes/v19/NA-19

Terence McKenna (the drug guy) correctly referred to television as a drug and watching television as a "trance state".

The same concept applies to today's cell phone user.

You can verify this for yourself by looking in the eyes of people watching television or staring at their phone.

One technique used is to confuse your eyes so that your brain goes into trance--this is done by motion in the advertising, first left, then right, then left, then right or up, down, up, down motion...

This stuff works--companies (and candidates) are advertising because it improves results.
30 posted on 02/14/2020 7:42:47 AM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: cgbg
you might enjoy this 4 hour documentary how mass manipulation is a science and used on us ... very thorough ...
31 posted on 02/14/2020 7:48:38 AM PST by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: Roccus

I know what you mean. My extremely liberal Democrat sister will never change her mind, no matter how great you can point out how things are under Donald Trump. I get the same crap here in Canada. I just don’t bother anymore. Canadians will hate any Republican, no matter how good he is no matter how many positive changes he has effected, as has President Donald J. Trump.

I just wish he could be president for longer! I guess Mike Pence will run in 2024;I just hope and pray that it doesn’t turn out like the Bush years, when it seemed the Vice President never quite matched the performance of the President. Too tired to remember the example that I’m thinking of, if that makes any sense. LOL!

Anyway, President Trump should enjoy some well-deserved rest and private time with his lovely wife and family. I’m sure Melania would like to get Baron out of the spotlight, something she has done very well to this point. Unlike GW’s daughters,particularly Jenna. I’m sure that Laura did her best, but her daughters were pretty much adults by then. I can’t remember the last time my 20 year old daughter listened to me!


32 posted on 02/14/2020 8:01:51 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Iran: I hate your country... You are the vomit that comes out of pigs after they eat their own filth)
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To: cgbg
I would really enjoy spending a few hours with you explaining why your statement is not correct.

We have never met. You do not know me....and yet you say that my statement, "In over 50 years of voting, I have NEVER been swayed OR convinced by any campaign ad." is not correct.

smh

33 posted on 02/14/2020 8:05:34 AM PST by Roccus (Prima di ogni altra cosa, siate armati!)
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To: knighthawk

What is the opinion worth of a person who is ignorant?


34 posted on 02/14/2020 8:29:29 AM PST by MCSETots
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To: bankwalker

I am watching the video now—great stuff—those who think they cannot be manipulated (they know who they are :-) ) need to understand how the magic is done.

None of us is immune—the best we can do is avoid advertising in all of its forms—it is toxic stuff.


35 posted on 02/14/2020 9:08:28 AM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: redfreedom

“and national polls are absurd at this stage.”


They are especially absurd when used to assess the likelihood of victory in an election which is not even a national one - but is a composite of state ones.

That the composite of state polls showed a commanding Trump lead is what most likely triggered the impeachment drive last summer.


36 posted on 02/14/2020 9:17:36 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: proud American in Canada

We both enjoy the Good Doctor - the “hokiest” part is his girlfriend - the rest is excellent.


37 posted on 02/14/2020 9:32:58 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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