FWIW:
Also. they may want it for research. Or they may hust need plasma.
Posted on 02/13/2020 4:11:04 PM PST by Vermont Lt
There are currently 65,213 confirmed cases worldwide, including 1,486 fatalities.
Any new updates on the Japan ship ppl?
Not that far. A few *weeks* ago, a family showed up in Wuhan for testing. After the parents begged, the techs did a CAT scan on their symptomless 10-year-old son.
He had that characteristic ground-glass opacity in his lungs, with no fever or anything. This was IIRC from South China Morning Post, before China started quarantining tens or hundreds of millions.
Just bought dog chews. Have to look hard to get stuff NOT made in china.
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Thanks for posting that link, to the Senate roundtable.
The poster of the vid posted these highlights....(at link you posted)....
Highlights:
1:37:00 Senator asks “What is the worst case scenario?”
(not transcribed): Doctor discusses needing to preparing for hundreds of thousands of cases.
1:45:32
Gottlieb: First of all, Singapore has about 4 million travellers from China a year, we have about 3 million. So on a statistical basis, there’s no reason to believe that as Singapore got implants of this virus, we didn’t. You would expect them to be identified earlier in Singapore, a very dense island nation city/state, you’d expect those viruses to be identified sooner there than it would be in a big country like ours. But it does suggest, at least to me, that we probably have some community spread right now that we just haven’t identified yet and will identify it in time. Hopefully in time to intervene, to prevent further propagation and make sure that we contain the small outbreaks.
1:48:40
Hon. Dr. Gottlieb:
Our system is excellent. The CDC does an excellent job of once we identify a case, doing that track and trace. That containment and the quarantine where necessary. I think what we should be worried about isn’t the cases that we know about, it’s the cases we don’t know about, and there’s certainly cases we don’t know about.
*stunned silence*
Senator: Explain yourself a little bit more, that statement confused me.
Gottlieb: Well, we shouldn’t’ assume that the 13 cases that we’ve identified and I think 10 of them were travel related - people who came directly from China and imported the virus into the United States that we just managed to find all 10 people coming in from China who happen to have the coronavirus. Especially since we know that there’s mild and moderate people or maybe even asymptomatic but certainly people with mild and moderate disease who can transit the disease. We have to believe that over the course of the month, or six weeks that this was epidemic in China, people came over from China and we just didn’t identify them. Some of the modelling out of the UK suggests that we’re capturing about 25% of the cases, at best. So for every case we identify there’s 3 or 4 that we didn’t identify. And at least some of those cases probably are propagating the virus at a local level, but not enough cases have accumulated yet to be identifiable.
1:54:42
Gottlieb: I will say, I think we’re going to know much much more in the next two weeks as we examine what’s happening in Singapore and what’s happening on a very unfortunate cruise ship because we’re going to get a better estimate of how many people with disease actually progress to severe disease. So far in Singapore with 50 cases identified and I believe they’re doing a good job of identifying their cases, eight are in the ICU. That’s deeply concerning to me.
And he was probably taking the usual precautions but passed it along anyway.
Latest Princess Cruise/Tokyo info that I found....
...The Japanese government is planning to allow passengers to voluntarily leave the ship in phases in the days ahead, giving the most “medically vulnerable guests” the option of leaving first, Princess Cruises said.
The U.S. Embassy in Tokyo confirmed that passengers over the age of 80 with pre-existing health conditions will be the first who are allowed to leave the ship, but noted: “passengers given this option will not be exiting quarantine, but rather will be moved to a facility provided by the Government of Japan.”
The CDC sent a letter to the passengers remaining on Diamond Princess Wednesday afternoon, the embassy said. In it, Dr. Anne Schuchat, principal deputy director of the CDC, wrote:
“Passengers in the first group will be tested for the 2019 novel coronavirus. If the test is positive, you will be transported to a local hospital for further evaluation and isolation. If the test is negative, you will be given the option to leave the ship and be transported to a quarantine housing facility. At this time, if you do not wish to go to the quarantine facilities, you must remain on the ship.
“Passengers should stay in their cabin until notified. When you are called, please always wear your mask and keep a 6-foot distance from others.”
The quarantine facility, the letter said, has individual rooms and individual bathrooms, but no medical clinics.
“Please be aware that this process will take time and not everyone may be offered the chance to disembark before the end of the quarantine period,” Schuchat wrote.....
I haven’t heard anything else. The latest ‘others’ I saw was 218.
Just pinged you to an update.
A freeper speculated that exact scenario over a week ago. Not good.
“Just bought dog chews. Have to look hard to get stuff NOT made in china.”
What’s even harder is finding stuff without any Chinese content. That’s what’s biting manufacturers now - if Ford is missing heater cores, they cannot build cars (except for Puerto Rico, where they bypass car heaters anyway). And depending on the parts, they often cannot even build the vehicles short, and then add the parts later (try replacing a heater core and you’ll see what I mean).
Thanks!
That, at least, seems like great news!
Really only a matter of time now.
Takes 27 years to make a doctor. But only 27 days to kill one.
Yes! Getting them off of that ship, slowly, but surely.
FWIW:
Also. they may want it for research. Or they may hust need plasma.
“Just the flu” hasn’t really killed all the doctors and nurses before.
I posted an article earlier saying 500 doctors have died in Wuhan so far
Have noticed, not being a male sexist pig at all here, that those Chinese Health Trooper Squads are always led by a short woman who also has a big radio device. She is in the background barking out orders.
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