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If 56% of loans for graduate school are being forgiven, they are not loans! If they were accounted for honestly, the budget deficit would be even bigger.

Subsidizing college is bad enough, but why are we subsidizing graduate school? College graduates should be able to save for graduate school and/or get funding from their school, not rely on taxpayers.

1 posted on 02/13/2020 6:16:23 AM PST by karpov
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Bullshit!


2 posted on 02/13/2020 6:19:23 AM PST by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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The CBO says the two main groups of borrowers are those in low-paid jobs and those with large student-debt balances. There is some overlap between those groups.

Perhaps some of these people are $150,000 in debt because they have advanced degrees in Lesbian Dance Theory and they now work at Starbucks for not much more than minimum wage. I suppose those folks will be the really big winners here.

3 posted on 02/13/2020 6:21:14 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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And don’t forget that forgiven debt is TAXABLE INCOME. Watch them squeal when that comes around.


4 posted on 02/13/2020 6:21:54 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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Just part of THE BIG DEMOCRAT PARTY MONEY MAKING AND MONEY LAUNDERING OPERATION!


6 posted on 02/13/2020 6:22:53 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To be clearer — this debt forgiveness is bullshit!

The forgiven will not learn, nor those following. It is indirect welfare for college and university progressive indoctrination centers.

The opposite needs to happen, like garnisheeing of paychecks. Bankruptcy is currently more difficult with college loans, but possible.

And, NO more school welfare for foreign students to come here to study. Use that money for American citizens!


7 posted on 02/13/2020 6:25:06 AM PST by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To err is human.

To make mistakes big enough to take the entire company down requires a graduate degree.


8 posted on 02/13/2020 6:25:24 AM PST by chrisser
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why?
Please forgive my taxes for next 10 years.


12 posted on 02/13/2020 6:33:49 AM PST by va22030
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Confiscate it from college endowments and professor pensions, as they were the beneficiaries of the largess.


15 posted on 02/13/2020 6:46:55 AM PST by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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How about not giving loans to meaningless degrees? Only give loans to Science, Computers etc., where placement after graduation is pretty much a sure thing. Also base all loans pending a reasonable GPA. IMHO


16 posted on 02/13/2020 6:48:59 AM PST by duckman ( Not tired of winning!)
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Convenient how kids were told they NEED a college degree, money be damned, and now along come the socialists to save their financial life situations with just a vote.

(Just my little conspiracy theory)


17 posted on 02/13/2020 6:52:14 AM PST by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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If you finance school with loans and don’t pay back the loan, you should have the credits taken back, just like they do with houses and cars. If you have a professional certification bases on those credits, you lose your certification.


19 posted on 02/13/2020 7:35:41 AM PST by CMAC51
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Subsidizing college is bad enough, but why are we subsidizing graduate school?

My graduate school in a STEM program was funded by grants, fellowships, and work-study programs. That means that it was all taxpayer funded.

I think the primary issue here is that people are getting loans to study subjects that have low rates of leading to successful careers, causing them to be unable to repay their loans. Rather than subsidizing unproductive degrees, we should be encouraging people to look at the long term opportunities in their selected course of study.

People who receive STEM degrees have very low unemployment rates. Even in the Obama years, people who had a Ph.D. in a STEM field had a 1-2% unemployment rate.

20 posted on 02/13/2020 8:07:05 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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So, those who were smart suffer by paying back their loans and paying higher taxes. Idiots pay nothing. Seems there is a smart tax.


23 posted on 02/13/2020 8:34:38 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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Why not offer debt forgiveness in exchange for renunciation of future claims on social security retirement benefits? I’m serious. Solve two problems at once.


24 posted on 02/13/2020 8:35:12 AM PST by Romulus
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To: karpov; polymuser; ClearCase_guy; Chickensoup; buffyt; Buckeye McFrog; CMAC51; exDemMom
It should be no surprise that kids fresh out of college with an entitlement mentality abound in gov. and education etc. when,

If you are employed by a government or not-for-profit organization, you may be able to receive loan forgiveness under the Public Service Loan Forgiveness Program .

The PSLF Program forgives the remaining balance on your Direct Loans after you have made 120 qualifying monthly payments under a qualifying repayment plan while working full-time [at least 30 hours per week with your employers] for a qualifying -non-religious non-profit or public service-type] employer.

Qualifying employment for the PSLF Program is not about the specific job that you do for your employer. Rather, it is about who your employer is. Employment with the following types of organizations qualifies for PSLF:

Serving as a full-time AmeriCorps or Peace Corps volunteer also counts as qualifying employment for the PSLF Program. 

If you are employed by a not-for-profit organization, time spent on religious instruction, worship services, or any form of proselytizing may not be counted toward meeting the full-time employment requirement.

For the purposes of the Public Service Loan Forgiveness Program, not-for-profit organizations that are not tax-exempt under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code are considered qualifying employers if, as their primary purpose, they provide at least one of the following public services:

Early childhood education includes licensed or regulated child care, Head Start, and state funded pre-kindergarten.

Law enforcement includes organizations that are publicly funded and whose principal purposes include crime prevention, control or reduction of crime, or the enforcement of criminal law.

Public education includes services that provide educational enrichment or support directly to students or their families in a school or a school-like setting.

Public health includes organizations that employ nurses, nurse practitioners, nurses in a clinical setting, and full-time professionals engaged in health care practitioner occupations and health support occupations, as such terms are defined by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Public interest law refers to legal services provided by an organization that is funded in whole or in part by a local, state, federal, or tribal government.

A qualifying loan for PSLF is any nondefaulted loan you received under the William D. Ford Federal Direct Loan (Direct Loan) Program.

More: https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/repay-loans/forgiveness-cancellation/public-service

These Americans fled the country to escape their giant student debt

"The congressional spending bill signed by President Donald Trump contained relief for student loan borrowers who work in public service

32 posted on 02/13/2020 3:58:50 PM PST by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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