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Sanders drags Democrats to the left; will it be 1972 all over again?
The Hill ^ | 02/12/20 09:45 AM EST | BY MARK PENN

Posted on 02/12/2020 3:54:11 PM PST by Hojczyk

Sanders is an avowed democratic socialist whose “free college” mantra has captured the party's youth vote, despite his having turned 78 years old. For decades he has lectured against the problems of big banks, an economy that works for the few, and the need for revolutionary change. It is odd — in a time of such great prosperity, low unemployment and rising wages — that his message would resonate.

The short answer is that his “socialist” message rings true to about 20 percent to 25 percent of the electorate — they just all happen to be concentrated among Democratic primary voters. The exit polls, for example, put the voters in the New Hampshire primary at 60 percent liberal while the electorate as a whole is no more than about 25 percent liberal. In a nutshell, this is the problem with today’s parties and the primary system: It is too easy for candidates who are out of step with America to gain traction in the Democratic Party, and this distorts all of Democratic politics among those who want to be president and thus pander to those voters.

Almost half of New Hampshire’s voters decided who to support in the last two days of the election. This indicates that their choices were reluctant, and it underscores the underlying uncertainty of most voters in the rest of the country with the primary field. Huge swaths of the electorate can change literally overnight in reaction to the next debate or the next searing revelation about a candidate’s background.

this race likely is going to go on for months, with no winner is in sight. Even if Warren and Biden do drop out after Super Tuesday, the Bloomberg, Klobuchar, Sanders and Buttigieg race could go all the way to the convention,

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1 posted on 02/12/2020 3:54:11 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

1968.


2 posted on 02/12/2020 3:54:49 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: MrEdd

1968 was a bit before my time. But aside from the violence outside the convention, wasn’t there uproar inside, as party bosses in a smoke filled room installed Hubert Humphrey as the nominee, as no candidate had a majority of delegate support going into the convention?

And in such a scenario, would Hillary Clinton be the Hubert Humphrey role, the compromise candidate?


3 posted on 02/12/2020 3:58:51 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Hojczyk

Okay....what happens when he wins the nomination and then has a heart attack and ......! What happens?


4 posted on 02/12/2020 3:59:17 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Hojczyk

I still think that narrative is false. The Democratic Party and its base have veered further left and Bernie is simply a SYMPTON of that reality.


5 posted on 02/12/2020 3:59:52 PM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sacajaweau

Weekend at Bernie’s of course.


6 posted on 02/12/2020 4:00:57 PM PST by Hieronymus ("I shall drink--to the Pope, if you please,-still, to Conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.")
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To: Hojczyk

“Sanders is an avowed democratic socialist...”

HE’S A COMMIE/FASCIST/SOCIALIST:

SOCIALISM
You have 2 cows.
The State forces you to give one to your neighbor, shoots the neighbor
and forces you to milk them both, giving all milk back to the state.
The State gives you a cup of sour milk.

LIBERALISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both cows, slaughters them for their own food,
and taxes you to death for worthless social programs, for having
the animals originally.

LEFTISM
You have 2 cows.
The State terrrorizes the animals until they can’t produce milk,
beats you and your wife to death, and puts your daughters & sons
into the Pedophile Nation, for the Epsteins, Weiners, Clintons etc.

PROGRESSIVISM
You have 2 cows.
Progs advocate for advancements in science, technology,
economic development and social organization, but they’re so full
of bullshit, nothing ever changes.
You still have 2 cows.

MARXISM
You have 2 cows.
The government takes both and tosses you into a hog pen, where you’re
devoured and never found.

COMMUNISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and gives you nothing.
They shoot your family and put you in a gulag.

DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both, promises more free cows, lets you vote and gives you sour milk.

FASCISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and sells you some milk.

NAZISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and shoots your wife and kids.

ANARCHISM
You have 2 cows.
The State shoots the cows, you and your family.

CRONY CAPITALISM
You have two cows.
The State takes both, milks, slaughters them, and makes a tidy profit from the sale
of choice meat cuts and fresh milk.
You get some lousy hamburger and a jar of sour milk.

BUREAUCRATISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both, shoots one, hires a sub-contractor to milk the other, and then throws the milk away.

CONTEMPORARY WALL STREETISM
You have two cows.
You sell one, bundle the other with a goat, a mule,
and two dry cows.
You pile into the derivatives market, buy a Gulfstream
and when it all comes down around your ears...
You go to the government for a bailout.

TRADITIONAL CAPITALISM
You have two cows.
You sell one and buy a bull.
Your herd multiplies, and the economy grows.
You sell them and retire on the income.


7 posted on 02/12/2020 4:01:18 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Sam Gamgee

Benie is the socialist they wish they were.


8 posted on 02/12/2020 4:01:19 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Hojczyk

Nothing is “free”. If I get something at no cost to me, SOMEBODY had to pay for it.
The milleni-imbeciles can’t grasp this concept so they fall for the old fart’s snake oil.


9 posted on 02/12/2020 4:01:26 PM PST by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Hojczyk

Refer to him as “Comrade Sanders.”


10 posted on 02/12/2020 4:01:48 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Hojczyk

More like 1996. The most left-leaning DEM would garner at least 150 EVs vs Trump.


11 posted on 02/12/2020 4:02:51 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: Sam Gamgee

Agreed


12 posted on 02/12/2020 4:03:27 PM PST by Frapster (Don't tread on me.)
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To: Hojczyk

He’s the kinda guy who clings to his God and the VA Legislature is scared to death is also clinging to his guns.


13 posted on 02/12/2020 4:04:04 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Hojczyk

If Bernie gets the nomination, he will lose.

My problem is that with every iteration where they push from the left, they go 3 feet to the left and end up gaining 4 or 5 inches.

I do see their efforts adding up over time.


14 posted on 02/12/2020 4:04:53 PM PST by llevrok (I'm a Boomer rube, deplorable and proud!)
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To: beethovenfan

It is a cargo cult.

Free stuff just magically appears on the island.


15 posted on 02/12/2020 4:07:24 PM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: Hojczyk

He’s not dragging the Communist Party anywhere, he is tearing down the curtain.


16 posted on 02/12/2020 4:10:04 PM PST by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I don’t think it’s going to matter.

They won’t give the nomination to Bernie so the socialists will run their own candidate who will probably be some shrill comunist younger than Bernie.

The Socialist candidate who runs will probably take more of the leftist votes than the Democrat nominee in November.


17 posted on 02/12/2020 4:10:35 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Hojczyk

What do you think happens if Trump dies of a heart attack in July or September?


18 posted on 02/12/2020 4:14:15 PM PST by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: Hojczyk

I sure hope we do better than 1972, when the GOP lost two Senate seats despite holding onto the presidency by a landslide.


19 posted on 02/12/2020 4:19:02 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Hojczyk

I hope so, Bern the whole Democrat party to the ground.

Bern it Down!


20 posted on 02/12/2020 4:23:59 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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