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1 posted on 02/10/2020 5:08:38 AM PST by gattaca
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Excellent article.


2 posted on 02/10/2020 5:24:42 AM PST by T. P. Pole
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I kinda like this quote: “American politics increasingly feels like a novel whose events are retold by two unreliable narrators, Trump being one and the media being the other. The truth, or something close it, is in there somewhere between the two of them.”

However, when the media starts with a baseline lie one cannot beat them without playing their game.


3 posted on 02/10/2020 5:33:07 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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Someone gets it.


4 posted on 02/10/2020 5:34:23 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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Now I am not about to jump into the fray by arguing that Trump and those in his orbit don’t often have a strained relationship with the truth.

Hey Mark, say hi to Peggy Noonan next time you see her at your favorite watering hole.


5 posted on 02/10/2020 5:44:30 AM PST by McBuff (To be, rather than to seem)
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Fake news.


6 posted on 02/10/2020 5:50:03 AM PST by John 3_19-21
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The Media has to earn our trust by truthful reporting, no amount of slogans or advertising can replace that.

7 posted on 02/10/2020 6:00:10 AM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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No truth will come from the so called media when they are comprised of 95% Leftwing activists.


8 posted on 02/10/2020 6:02:28 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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“Maybe you hate The New York Times, but you’re not getting extensive coverage about the dangers of global pandemics from TrumpTruth2020.com. “

But is the New York Times coverage about the dangers of global pandemics true, accurate and trustworthy?


9 posted on 02/10/2020 6:04:42 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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The MSM has lost me, permanently. It has been years, probably closer to a couple of decades, since I have believed anything they've spewed. I've determined they cannot regain my trust.

I had parents and aunts and uncles growing up that never trusted the Japanese, never had anything good to say about them. (and to a lesser extent the Germans) They had lived through WWII, they had lost friends and relatives in the war. They would never again trust the Japanese. Never.

I will admit as a kid growing up I recognized this, but didn't really understand it. Now I do. I have developed the same distrust and loathing towards leftists. Professionally I "grew up" a cold-warrior. Communism and socialism were the great evils, the fundamental enemy. Today, the MSM is nothing but a cheerleader, a propaganda arm for the leftists, socialists, and fascists of every stripe looking to destroy America. Not unlike the Japanese trying to expand their influence and power, willing to kill to do it. I understand my older relatives now. I also understand that there is absolutely nothing the MSM could do, no reversal of course, no sudden shift to actually doing their jobs in a fair and balanced way, nothing they can do that will ever change that. There is no integrity there, and no trust on my part. Never will be.

10 posted on 02/10/2020 6:09:28 AM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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I have a friend whose daughter is a very peripheral reporter for CNN. This friend is constantly touting her daughter and CNN as REAL NEWS. I just don’t listen anymore.


11 posted on 02/10/2020 6:17:44 AM PST by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell..?)
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Superb article.


12 posted on 02/10/2020 6:23:39 AM PST by edwinland
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It is a very good article.

It fails when it attempts to save the New York Times.

We are returning to a time of openly partisan media.

That was how it was at the beginning of the Republic.

It was what the First Amendment was designed for.

13 posted on 02/10/2020 6:26:31 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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“Wow, can you imagine a situation where every time you turned on the news or saw a headline on the internet you had to reflexively question what you read?”

Not hard to imagine at all....Happens every time I tune to CNN or MSNBC.

14 posted on 02/10/2020 6:27:04 AM PST by Popman
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During my time in Southeast Asia, I realized that every time the media reported an event I knew something about, they got it wrong. My experience since then has been the same. I don't trust anything the news media report. They probably get the Day of the week right, and maybe yesterday's snowstorm, but I doubt just about everything else.
15 posted on 02/10/2020 6:40:31 AM PST by JoeFromSidney (Colonel (Retired) USAF.)
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“At one point, during a riff on abortion, Trump casually asserted that ‘the governor of Virginia executed a baby’”

I think I’ve watched nearly every Trump rally and don’t remember him ever saying that.

Has anyone else?


16 posted on 02/10/2020 6:41:47 AM PST by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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It was that, in this state of heightened suspicion, truth itself—about Ukraine, impeachment, or anything else—felt more and more difficult to locate. With each swipe, the notion of observable reality drifted further out of reach.

Most if not all of today's news; one lies and all the rest swear to it.

17 posted on 02/10/2020 6:50:45 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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When the media chose sides during the Clinton administration, then lost me. Bill and Hillary could do anything and their adoring media just swooned.


20 posted on 02/10/2020 7:36:04 AM PST by Texas resident (Democrats=Enemy of People of The United States of America)
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Coppins’ article, like many that have come before it, seems to basically assume that the media consensus that reflects the worldview of a largely secular, center-left coastal overclass, a.k.a. subscribers to The Atlantic, is more or less the “truth.”
24 posted on 02/10/2020 7:49:51 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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At one point, during a riff on abortion, Trump casually asserted that ‘the governor of Virginia executed a baby’—prompting a woman in the crowd to scream, ‘Murderer!’

This incendiary fabrication didn’t seem to register with my companions in the press pen, [ . . . ]that there were certainly different ways to interpret his comments but that not even the most ardent anti-abortion activist thought the governor of Virginia had personally ‘executed a baby.;


By that reasoning, neither Herod, Capone nor Hitler would be "murders" because they didn't directly participate except through order or permission.
25 posted on 02/10/2020 7:54:30 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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It's going to take a hell of a lot of reason giving to get any honest person to trust these clowns!
26 posted on 02/10/2020 8:23:18 AM PST by Savage Beast (My perception of Trump these days is that he is in close communication with God. --Qiviut)
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