Posted on 02/09/2020 9:33:59 PM PST by SpeedyInTexas
CNBC saying 66, not 60. Bringing total to 136.
But this time, it’s not for my country, my flag and you. 😁
CDC contact tells American couple on the ship “its very likely that the virus is actually in the air”
https://twitter.com/ZJasko/status/1225947496888852480
Shanghai officials reveal novel coronavirus transmission modes Confirmed transmission routes of the novel coronavirus include direct transmission, contact transmission and ***aerosol transmission*** a Shanghai official said on Saturday.
https://chinadaily.com.cn/a/202002/08/WS5e3e7d97a310128217275fc3.html
When this quarantine is over, how will the ship be made safe again?
OR the “isolated” island?
They can scuttle the ship...
Nope...the ship itself is perfect isolation. Japan is right in handling it this way.
I’d wager they are also using the ship as a lab to gather data on transmission and other aspects of the bug.
This keeps being said, but I have seen ZERO official evidence that it is fact. Show me............
Don't be ridiculous. You do realize that cruise ships have at least "some" on-board medical capability. We simply DO NOT KNOW the full story of what measures are being taken. Much speculation, little actual information.
I’ll just chime-in with what I do know about these ships:
The entire crew (other than maybe the top officers) sleep ‘downstairs’ in cabins that do not have balconies, or even windows that open (and it makes sense to design the boat that way, if you want it to stay floating in all conditions).
A subset of passengers, by my rough estimate maybe 30% of them, either have inside cabins (no window), or have window cabins (but again, the windows don’t open). The rest of the passengers have balconies.
So, again, as a rough estimate, half of the people on that boat, maybe 1800 do not have access to continuous fresh air. I don’t know how air gets recirculated on a boat. I suspect quite a bit does, so as to keep down their fuel costs...and this is critical here. If they do have the capability to cut off recirculation of air, I sure as hell hope they’re doing that.
Now, about the balcony rooms. Not so great either, unless the passengers can figure out a way to sleep on the balconies and stay out of their cabins. Why? Because of a big, huge, air vent (as in 2 feet by 2 feet)...as far as I can remember, you can’t shut it off and trying to block it is probably futile (but you can hang clothes there to dry). You can control temperature - but that’s about it.
Needless to say, the killing off of aerosol viruses was likely never a part of their design - easy to beat them up over this, but was it really reasonable to believe a disaster like this could happen on a cruise ship? For other attacks/diseases, they actually do a good job (now) of keeping people protected (such as from the runs), but this one is new.
Anyway, having said that, I don’t think we’ll need to worry much about this happening in the future, once this wave of Coronavirus passes. The cruise ship companies, from what I can tell, have been working together to coordinate their response to Coronavirus (which makes some sense), but their attitude seems more like: we’ll do the minimum required, this will pass and things will get back to normal. What they SHOULD have done was simply park their boats and cancel future cruises until this is over (although they would have had to have been very pro-active to prevent the Japan situation). Things will NOT get ‘back to normal with them’, for years, if ever. I don’t know what it takes, but if UV kills off this virus, then they’ll have to put that in, and that won’t be overnight. Cruises in Asia are finished until at least then. Cruises in the rest of the world will be hit hard...but the total impact will depend on the spread of the virus, and whether more ‘Love Boat’ scenarios develop.
“This keeps being said, but I have seen ZERO official evidence that it is fact. Show me............ “
I had read that once or twice and seen videos from the passengers to that effect (of resetting the 14-day clock), but the Japanese government seems to still be counting down the days (about a week left now).
But think about it...would you tell the passengers that their Love Boat ‘holiday’ is being extended on a continuous basis?
Not all kept aboard a tight quarters area that is the ship.
It would maybe be better to remove seemingly
unaffected people to a staged quarantine area on land with individual rooms & service before eventual final release.
With much of Japan elderly as well.... this would be an epic disaster.
I wuz cruisin’
Now I’m bruisin’
If I jump ship
I will die quick.
On Cruise Ship Quarantined In Japan, New Cases Could Reset The Isolation Clock
“ The coronavirus quarantine that’s kept some 3,700 people aboard a cruise ship in Japan is currently set to expire on Feb. 19 — but that date will be reset every time a new case is confirmed on the ship, a WHO official says.”
I notice stats are not being update with these figures as the JHU site still shows only 26 cases in Japan. Lots of lag, yet 40K infected.
There is indeed an Eastern herd mentality but it is also a Socialist/Communist mentality wherein the needs of society always supersedes the needs of the individual.
People will tolerate subservience to the state until their individual lives are at stake. Witness the people struggling and fighting NOT to be forced into quarantine in China. That is when the individual is reborn.
I see there are a few cases now in India. If the virus spreads in India it will make China look like a minor incident.
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