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Bernie Sanders calls for nationwide end to cash bail during Democratic debate
New York Post ^ | February 7, 2020 | Ben Feuerherd

Posted on 02/08/2020 9:49:35 AM PST by karpov

Sen. Bernie Sanders called for an end to cash bail across the country at the Democratic debate on Friday night, saying there are hundreds of thousands of people locked up because they can’t afford a several-hundred-dollar fee.

Sanders made his call to end bail as the candidates debated America’s criminal justice system and how it affects minorities in the United States.

“Most people don’t know this. Tonight in America, 200,000 people are in jail without having been convicted of anything. Two hundred thousand people — because they can’t afford the 500 bucks they need to get out of jail,” Sanders said.

“That is outrageous. We are going to end cash bail in America,” he added.

Sanders’ comments came as New York state passed a criminal justice law that went into effect on Jan. 1, ending bail for a number of misdemeanor and non-violent felony offenses.

The law has been blasted by law enforcement officials and elected officials in the city, with NYPD Commissioner Dermot Shea saying in January that a rise in citywide crime since the start of 2020 is linked to the bail-reform law.

“In the first three weeks of this year, we’re seeing significant spikes in crime. So either we forgot how to police New York City, or there’s a correlation,” Shea said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bail; berniesanders; crime; goldstategop; sanders
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Meanwhile, De Blasio admits NYC crime jump is linked to bail reform.
1 posted on 02/08/2020 9:49:35 AM PST by karpov
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I support the end of bail for misdemeanors and non violent felonies.

Bail reform is supposed to get people to appear in court on their own cognizance.

Don’t know why any one would support letting people accused of violent felonies out with or without bail.


2 posted on 02/08/2020 9:55:48 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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So the crazy old marxist wants criminals let out of jail before the trial, as long as they promise to be good boys and show up for the court date.

Or does he want all accused criminals to stay in jail, even if they can afford bail?

Foremost in the mind of a crazy marxist is what they call “fairness.” The amount of money you have should not determine if you are confined to a jail cell.

Insane liberal attitudes like this have released criminals on the streets to kill again. That’s what he wants.


3 posted on 02/08/2020 9:57:22 AM PST by I want the USA back (The media is acting full-on as the Democratic Party's press agency now: Robert Spencer)
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To: karpov

Can they use that credit card they stole to pay the bail?


4 posted on 02/08/2020 9:59:02 AM PST by bgill
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To: karpov

Why don’t we just get rid of all laws and law enforcement period? Wouldn’t that be great?

/s


5 posted on 02/08/2020 9:59:48 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: karpov

Wouldn’t it make more sense to just have Bloomberg put up all bail monies? After all, Bernie says that billionaires need to contribute more.


6 posted on 02/08/2020 10:01:08 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: bgill

People who commit serious crimes should stay locked up awaiting trial.

Bail reform does away with incarceration for everyone else.

At least that’s the way it’s supposed to work.


7 posted on 02/08/2020 10:01:55 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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I think justice would be promoted far more by politicians insisting that the Sixth Amendment right to a speedy trial be enforced. Rather than waiting years for a trial either on bail or in jail, maybe the trial should take place in months. If the courts are too overloaded to handle that, maybe we are overlegislated.
8 posted on 02/08/2020 10:03:02 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Democrats couldn't count a Siskel and Ebert vote, but they'll still try with those dead Chicagoans.)
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To: I want the USA back

> So the crazy old marxist wants criminals let out of jail before the trial <

Socialists love chaos, at first. It’s one way for them to gain power. Then after they gain power, they ruthlessly suppress the chaos. The National Socialists (Nazis) perfected that technique.


9 posted on 02/08/2020 10:07:04 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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It is called “body attachment”.

With no skin in the game, there is little incentive for the miscreant to voluntarily return to court appearance if merely turned loose. There is nothing to lose by simply disappearing, no obligation, no appeal to conscience.

“Catch and release” brought down to the precinct level.


10 posted on 02/08/2020 10:10:40 AM PST by alloysteel (Freedom is not a matter of life and death. It is much more serious than that..)
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> I think justice would be promoted far more by politicians insisting that the Sixth Amendment right to a speedy trial be enforced. <

Excellent comment!

The Supreme Court has perverted the 6th Amendment. A “speedy trial” now means within six months. How is that speedy? And what’s worse, “all criminal prosecutions” now means only those crimes carrying a sentence of more than six months.

“All” evidently no longer means “all”.

So if you are charged with such a crime, you can sit in jail for six months. And you DON’T have the right to request a jury trial.

The 6th Amendment:

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed...


11 posted on 02/08/2020 10:19:51 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: I want the USA back

they are NOT criminals unless and until they’ve been convicted of a crime

(i have seen far far FAR too much raw abuse of the police..... and judicial.... systems to assume anybody arrested is guilty of anything


12 posted on 02/08/2020 10:20:02 AM PST by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE).)
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To: goldstategop

I would give them a pass the first time for minor crimes, especially if they are not repeat offenders, but if they continue to shoplift or whatever while awaiting trial then they need to be locked up.

But I think a better approach would be to end the war on drugs, do something about asset forfeiture, and crack down on plea deals. There are too many people pleading to stuff they didn’t do because prosecutors, scared them into it. Also, do something about roadside drug testing. When doughnut frosting tests positive for meth, they should not be accepted for any reason. Either ban them or let victims sue the test makers and police for the consequences of a false positive.


13 posted on 02/08/2020 10:21:03 AM PST by beef (Caution: Potential Sarcasm - Process Accordingly)
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To: karpov

Sen. Bernie Sanders called for an end to cash bail .
I agree !!! ALL democrat politicians should be arrested and no bail should be offered of any kind.After a fair trial they should be hanged until dead.


14 posted on 02/08/2020 10:22:05 AM PST by contrarian
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To: karpov

I am probably wrong here, but isn’t bail something that is pretty much a state and local matter. Would Congress even have the power to eliminate bail for state crimes?

So I’m going to assume that Sanders is advocating no bail for Federal crimes—is that it?


15 posted on 02/08/2020 10:25:11 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: karpov

With all the serious issues this country faces and this marxist is talking about bail?


16 posted on 02/08/2020 10:27:28 AM PST by plain talk
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To: faithhopecharity

“i have seen far far FAR too much raw abuse of the police..... and judicial.... systems to assume”

It is sad to say, but at some point the “justice” system went from being about justice to being about winning. They are no longer focused on figuring out who actually did what, and instead all they want to know is “can I get a conviction?”. I my mind, there is a HUGE difference.

That said, this move by Sanders is not about fairness, but is simply a response to PDJT commuting sentences for non-violent offenders. Their polling must be telling how popular this is among certain groups.


17 posted on 02/08/2020 10:28:55 AM PST by beef (Caution: Potential Sarcasm - Process Accordingly)
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To: goldstategop

In NYC all it has done is release thieves and vandals and drug dealers to keep breaking the law. This actually encourages lawless behavior and is the opposite of Rudy’s broken window policy that cleaned up NYC.


18 posted on 02/08/2020 10:35:44 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (If gun ownership by private citizens scares DemocRats, the 2nd Amendment is doing its job.)
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To: karpov

Bookmark


19 posted on 02/08/2020 10:39:32 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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To: I want the USA back
So the crazy old marxist wants criminals let out of jail before the trial

Just freeing up space for the re-education camps in case he gets elected.

20 posted on 02/08/2020 10:40:21 AM PST by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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