The Left would never allow that. They will insist on wind-powered charging stations. And if there is no wind, well...that’s just too bad. Just sit in your immobile car and think green thoughts.
Posted on 02/06/2020 10:47:00 AM PST by yesthatjallen
Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Andy Levin (D-Mich.) on Thursday outlined a bill that seeks to establish a nationwide electric vehicle charging network within five years.
Their Electric Vehicle Freedom Act, which was slated to be introduced Thursday, would establish the network along the nation's highway systems and also promote compatibility between chargers and cars, affordability and the creation of automotive and infrastructure jobs, Levin said at a press conference.
"We're trying to actually advance and improve our fleets and our vehicles, which means that we have to go electric and the way that we do that is with a public infrastructure," Ocasio-Cortez said.
Levin declined to give a specific cost estimate, but said that "it'll cost a lot of money to put all these chargers in place." He said "we'll see" how much will be paid for by taxpayers and how much hosts will pay.
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please see my post #20. You are spot on.
Great response- they are indeed COAL fired vehicles with limited range... and they cost waaaaay too much per BTU of energy required to charge and run them.
Personally, the way I see it is that walking is good for me. However people with disabilities do need to be close to the entrance as much as possible so preferred parking for electric cars is a no go.
“The only ‘equitable’ thing is to make charging your EV free.”
You didn’t think they were going to encourage private charging stations, did you? One’s where the user actually has to pay the cost of the electricity AND infrastructure AND upkeep AND taxes/carbon credits.
The rich and the government should pay all that stuff.
my read exactly
LOL. Your time frame for swapping out a battery is quite optimist. My best guess would be at minimum a half an hour. The entire industry would need to be standardized to get to that time frame
Ever swap out a forklift battery ?
The Left would never allow that. They will insist on wind-powered charging stations. And if there is no wind, well...that’s just too bad. Just sit in your immobile car and think green thoughts.
She thinks electricty magically appears at the wall outlet. Or maybe grows on trees somewhere.
I can’t walk far without a cane, but I haven’t gotten to the point where I feel a need for a sticker.
There are those far worse than me
Except for those that park in the handicap spots and can still beat healthy people to the door. (so they can plop their fat @$$es on a motorized cart)
And yes, those EV spots really hacked me off. especially since my taxes helped buy them those coal-powered Smugmobiles.
You pay for the gas.
You choose the retailer to do business.
You pay taxes on the purchase.
None of these will happen with 'free' charging stations.
Not if you did it right. A good ME could design a method to dock, align, secure, unload, and reverse. 3 min max. *I* could do that, and I am a lousy ME ;-)
Swapping a forklift battery is a maintenance task, not an operational/ process task.
NET: it could be done.
There is no f'in way manufacturers will agree to the same battery as everybody else.
now you'll also need batteries for model years in each of the manufacturers vehicles..i.e. a 2021 Hundai uses a different battery than a 2022 Hundai would, etc...
the battery swap seems like a logistical nightmare
Robots and AI could make it a snap.
Drive into a station that senses what battery your car uses. The appropriate robot with the appropriate battery moves into place and makes the swap without any humans involved.
*Patent Pending.
I already came up with that solution ten years ago when all the eco freaks were freaking out with their tiny cars, and some of us in the normie were pointing out the ridiculous charge times.
I didn't say I would ever buy an electric, but if I had to, standardized cores and a swapping mechanism/charging conveyor would be the way to go.
The drawbacks I considered were that you're at risk of getting a core at the end of its serviceable lifetime, and having it crap out a mile down the road.
And of course there's a limit to how many cores you can hold on the charging conveyor. On a busy day, the service station won't be able to provide fully charged cores.
Then there's the liability. Just because a core is standardized doesn't mean the manufacturer employs the same level of quality. If the swap puts in a cheap chinese core into your 170K ride and it burns up, are you insured for that?
If every car used the same style of battery, that would work great. Provided it was designed for fast swapping in the first place. A modular battery rack with a number of battery cells that the car calls for.
Let’s say your Tesla uses a 75 kw battery group, but your neighbor’s electric F-150 calls for 150 kw. It can be the same cells, just arranged in greater quantity on a larger rack.
You pull in to the changing station, get out of the car and go inside to use the rest room and buy some snacks, pay the man, the swapping forklift machine pulls out the depleted battery and re-inserts a freshly-charged rack of batteries.
The upside would be that batteries near their end of life would be located at the station and would become their responsibility to recycle/trash/whatever, taking that burden off the car’s owner. Of course, that would have to be included in the price of the replacement batteries so that it could be covered by the users.
Or, we can just take our vehicles that we have now and fill them up at the local Shell station.
We’ll see a new social upheaval called Charging Rage. “It’s taking you too long!” followed by *Thunk,*whack and *Pow!
“Electric” cars are “good” as little else than in town runabouts and virtue signalling symbolism...Resistance to adopting (coal generated) electric powered cars is largely due to the recharging problem...Recharge stations are few and far between; more are needed if electric cars are to become practical...Never mind the time involved to recharge; an entirely separate and equally thorny issue... Understood...
If you’re a US Rep from the Detroit area, seeking to re-energize the local auto industry at the behest of the union interests that largely funded your campaign, this makes perfect sense to you as a pay-back to the labor and business interests who put you in Congress ...
Another party hack (just like his retired Daddy, whose seat Andy now occupies) delivering the boondoggle pork, doing the bidding of his supporters, all of course on the taxpayers’ dime...
Like all the other socialist “ideas” (costs be damned), this one is to be payed for with someone else’s money...
No. It takes me 30 minutes
to get a 200 mile range charge. On the other hand Tesla already has a network across the country. The Congress critters are a bit late.
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