The Palestinian Delusion

Youtube ^ | 2/4/20 | Gerard Perry

[OddLane]

I review Robert Spencer's latest book, The Palestinian Delusion, and give my thoughts on the latest plan for Middle East "peace."

[Nuke From Orbit]

Until the tribalism mentality is stopped there will be no peace. The other main issue is religious ideology. I wont call Islam a religion because it is not it is an ideology. It is also completely not compatible with western culture. The sooner everyone gets that fact the sooner we can approach diplomacy and rational discussions.

[DoughtyOne]

You certainly see it a lot clearer than our Christian churches seem to.

This IS NOT simply another church on the block.

IMO < it’s the church of Satan on the block.

It’s a false religion. They do not preach love, or salvation through faith.

They preach of conquest, and a draconian future if they are successful.

Christians willing to live in peace side by side, their bodies wiil be lying on the ground on the side.

[PIF]

Until the tribalism mentality Islam is stopped there will be no peace

[MikelTackNailer]

“Palestinians” are the cast off unwanted the surrounding Arab countries use as an anti-Israeli weapon, brainwashed from birth to worship death.

I believe Islam is the damning deception in Revelations and we know who heads up that outfit.

I was thinking the United States ought to give the Israelis a large part of non-radiated Nevada and let the Islamists wipe each other out with their traditional foe gone. Israel turned near desert into viable farmland while the Arabs looked and envied instead of doing for themselves. If not for the oil money they would have remained insignificant savages rather than wealthy ones.

[DoughtyOne]

We share a lot in common with our beliefs regarding Israel, I'm sure. But I can't sign on to Israel being in the United States. And that's not for a lack of respect for Israel.

Look, Israel needs to be autonomous. One can see the growth of antisemitism in the world, and that doesn't stop at our borders. If a demoⁿcRat were to come along down the road, who knows how an Israel inside the United States might be treated.

I think it's where it belongs, inside it's traditional thousands of years homeland.

[EinNYC]

My succinct summation of "Palescumian/Israeli peace talks and the resultant compromises, mostly on the part of Israel":

Fuhgeddaboutit!

[MikelTackNailer]

Yeah, I know moving the Israelites out of Israel for resettlement screws up the prophetic narrative. I was just throwing it out there - and some do believe America might be the great promised land. Why, Lord, is Revelations so doggone cryptic?

[Yosemitest]

“Palestinians” ?
WRONG !
They are "Syrians" ... because that's where they were kick out of.
But Syria couldn't put up with them.
So Syria kicked them out.
Israel had them rounded up in Lebanon and put them on a ship.
But no Arab country would take them.

Remember this ?

PALESTINIAN PEOPLE DO NOT EXIST
Published: 07/11/2002

" ... So, despite the fact that conventional wisdom has now proclaimed that there is such a thing as the Palestinian people, I’m going to raise those uncomfortable quotations made by Arafat and his henchmen when their public-relations guard was down.

Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein.
Here’s what he said:

The Palestinian people does not exist.
The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity.
In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese.
Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people,
since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism.

For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa,
while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem.
However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.

That’s pretty clear, isn’t it ?
It’s even more specific than Golda Meir’s statement.
It reaffirms what I have written on this subject.
And it is hardly the only such statement of its kind.
Arafat himself made a very definitive and unequivocal statement along these lines as late as 1993.
It demonstrates conclusively that the Palestinian nationhood argument is the real strategic deception – one geared to set up the destruction of Israel.

In fact, on the same day Arafat signed the Declaration of Principles on the White House lawn in 1993, he explained his actions on Jordan TV.
Here’s what he said:
“Since we cannot defeat Israel in war, we do this in stages.
We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish a sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more.
When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel.”
... "

And don't forget this article which also documents Zahir Muhsein's statement :

ORIGINS OF THE PALESTINIAN NARRATIVE
Posted by Timothy Benton, Feb 14, 2019

" ... What is found in the files are four main points:


• The PLO and the Palestinian Narrative was dreamt up by the KGB, which had a penchant for ‘liberation’ organizations.” — Ion Mihai Pacepa, former chief of the Foreign Intelligence Service of Romania.
  
  
• “First, the KGB destroyed the official records of Arafat’s birth in Cairo, and replaced them with fictitious documents saying that he had been born in Jerusalem and was, therefore, a Palestinian by birth.” — Ion Mihai Pacepa.
  
  
• “[T]he Islamic world was a waiting petri dish in which we could nurture a virulent strain of America-hatred, grown from the bacterium of Marxist-Leninist thought.
  Islamic anti-Semitism ran deep…
  We had only to keep repeating our themes — that the United States and Israel were ‘fascist, imperial-Zionist countries’ bankrolled by rich Jews.” — Yuri Andropov, former KGB chairman.
  
  
• As early as 1965, the USSR had formally proposed in the UN a resolution that would condemn Zionism as colonialism and racism.
  Although the Soviets did not succeed in their first attempt, the UN turned out to be an overwhelmingly grateful recipient of Soviet bigotry and propaganda;
  in November 1975, Resolution 3379 condemning Zionism as “a form of racism and racial discrimination” was finally passed. ... "

[DoughtyOne]

No problem. I think its cryptic because we are supposed to think, not have it handed to us on a silver platter.

I think it’s worth reading, because it paints a picture of cataclysm. We know those are going to be serious troubling times.

Are they what salvation is all about? No.

The death of Jesus Christ and the acceptance of that by us as payment for our souls despite our sinful nature, is what salvation is all about. So we cling to Jesus our redeemer.

Revelation won’t save us. It sobers us. It reminds us of the honorific times to come, and the imperative to get ourselves right with God.

If we’re right with the Lord, we will weave our way through Revelation with no problem. Could we lose our life? will it matter? We serve the one true God.

[Yosemitest]

"But I can't sign on to Israel being in the United States.
And that's not for a lack of respect for Israel."

It's more than that IF you really READ and COMPREHEND what the Bible says.
It starts in Genesis 48

" ...and let MY NAME be named ON THEM ..."
"
[Manasseh] he also shall become a people, and he also shall be GREAT:
but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he,


[Ephraim] ... and his seed shall become A MULTITUDE OF NATIONS . ..."

Also know that the first time the Bible mentions the JEWS (the House of Judah), they were AT WAR AGAINST Israel.
So the Jews are NOT Israel.