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Now That Brexit Is Complete, It’s Time To Strengthen The Anglosphere: An informal trade, research, and defense bloc would be a good start.
The Federalist ^ | 02/03/2020 | Sumantra Maitra

Posted on 02/03/2020 9:38:55 AM PST by SeekAndFind

As the Big Ben gong struck 11 p.m. GMT on January 31, marking the moment the United Kingdom left the European Union, thousands of people started singing “Rule Britannia” in Parliament Square. Next to the statue of Winston Churchill was a British Army Parachute Regiment flag—apt, given that the EU is German-dominated—and a few large American flags.

Churchill was half American, and Americans in London clearly love a good independence party. A world where British people are free to vote and kick out their representatives might be hard in the days to come, but it is far, far better than one that was inexorably going towards a European empire. As one of the most striking placards read, “Britain isn’t supposed to be one of the many stars in someone else’s flag.” The period from 1973 to 2020 was a historical aberration.

Perhaps this is why Brexit vexes liberals so much. Brexit is important in ways more than the simple freedom and slavery dichotomy. It ruins a much vaunted and hitherto untouchable narrative. A recent IPSOS-MORI poll shows that Remainers, those who preferred to live in the EU, are less tolerant than Leavers of other people’s opinion. A earlier survey from 2016 found U.S. Democratic women block people on social media far more than do Republican women.

This is because, to leftists, their ideology is like a religion. All politics therefore is theological and Manichean, an existential battle between the forces of good and evil, where dissenting opinion is akin to heresy. For all the talk of diversity, Liberals are the most homogenous ideologically. As William Buckley said once, “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”

No one likes to see their gods bleed. Brexit did that. The world was supposed to be inexorably moving towards a providential liberal-democratic borderless future, ruled by a technocratic elite with same sexual, social, and economic beliefs, where faith, flag, family, duty, propriety, culture, and civilization didn’t matter, and the only variables were financial prosperity and freedom of the loins. The idea was a pagan animalistic existence in an atomized jungle, ruled by distant overlords you cannot touch or fight.

Brexit proved there’s something much more important than just cheap supermarket goods. And the pull of an earlier, greater if anachronistic world of nation-states, great powers, and national freedom is not over yet. Internationalism at the cost of national sovereignty is not a done deal.

History isn’t one-directional. One cannot only just “stand athwart History and yell stop,” one can actually turn back time. The direction of History can be actually reversed. The decline of a great nation or civilization isn’t inevitable. That’s a lesson for several other countries. Look at those Brits and their roast-beefs, singing “Britannia rules the waves, Britons never, never shall be slaves.” Those are not just mere words. They have actual meanings.

Conservative academic works have critiqued the EU as imperial and Soviet-lite. But of course, those suffered from the same folly of every historical work. The job of historians is to try and find thematic similarities, because history rhymes, but readers interpret that as sameness and discard the works.

The EU doesn’t have rusty steel barriers or soulless concrete blocks guarded by jackbooted, dead-eyed soldiers. But Brussels has the same flattening instinct as its older cousins had in Moscow. You don’t need goose-stepping soldiers to rip off the identity of every single nation-state and individuality of every single culture—you can do it with mind-numbing legalese and relentless financial and jurisdictional pressure.

Peter Hitchens writes of when he was moved the most by the plight of a lone Englishman, a shop-keeper Steve Thoburn, who refused to sell in EU-mandated kilograms and instead chose to sell in imperial measures, like pounds. The relentless harassment that ensued is a stuff of legends in these isles.

Hitchens writes, “I watched a British shopkeeper called Steve Thoburn be spitefully, relentlessly prosecuted for the crime of selling bananas to his customers in English pounds rather than continental kilograms. This is the kind of thing that makes me uncontainably furious; I glimpsed for the first time what each of the multiple humiliations of subjugation and occupation by foreigners must feel like. And at that point I became what my old friend had been: an Ancient Mariner, eyes glittering, gnarled fingers clutching the wrists of passersby, gripped with a seething passion I could not communicate. Who cares about your silly old ounces and inches and furlongs? And yet I did, involuntarily.”

Thoburn died of a heart attack in 2004, but I wish he were alive to see this day.

The struggle ahead of Boris Johnson’s Britain isn’t any less just because the U.K. is nominally out of the EU. The Unionist parties of Scotland, far greater in total number compared to the Scottish National Party, need to be united under one flag.

Most importantly, the British education system needs to be restructured. British universities and media are foreign-funded hubs of anti-Western propaganda led by hard-leftists. Unless future generations are taught that their civilization, despite some flaws, is objectively glorious and not irredeemably racist, sexist, colonial, and xenophobic, this fire of freedom will inevitably die in another internationalist push.

A new world order demands a new geo-political thinking. The EU now will face a massive tax burden as British contributions dry up, and with that, potentially British security patrols in the Baltics. This will likely lead to a further push for forced financial centralization and a European army, which will fuel further national secessionist tendencies, and the rift between North and South Europe.

Not to mention the inevitable clash of interests between the United States and the EU. Two suns can be in the same sky only in a Star Wars film. In geopolitical reality, two power centers will inevitably compete. Washington and London should take note of that.

The Anglosphere needs to be renewed and strengthened. Trade deals with America and Australia are an urgent priority. The combined economic and military potential of the United States, U.K., Canada, Australia, and New Zealand can overwhelm any other trade bloc or geopolitical power. Add likeminded countries, such as Japan, India, and Singapore, and you have a powerful bloc incomparable in human history—one that values national sovereignty, but can pull together research and development, military might, and financial power.

The EU was supposed to be like that before it turned into a borderless quasi-imperial project. Yet a simple trade and financial bloc didn’t need a parliament and human-rights court that forces its diktats on vassal states. Only conquered countries accept that fate from their imperial overlords. Great Britain was never conquered.


Sumantra Maitra is a doctoral researcher at the University of Nottingham, UK, and a senior contributor to The Federalist. His research is in great power-politics and neorealism.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: anglosphere; bojo; borisjohnson; brexit; brexitofficial; brexitparty; europe; europeanunion; nato; nigelfarage; sumantramaitra; thefederalist; uk; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 02/03/2020 9:38:55 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: KC_Lion

Ping.


2 posted on 02/03/2020 9:40:04 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: SeekAndFind

Post-Brexit bump for later.....


3 posted on 02/03/2020 9:46:51 AM PST by indthkr
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Churchill was half American,
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Churchill’s mother was an American.
Yet, despite assurances by freepers that being an American on one’s mother’s side is enough to make one a natural born citizen, Congress bestowed “honorary” citizenship on Churchill in the 1950s.

Boris Johnson, the current Prime Minister was born in New York.
The last King of Thailand was born in Cambridge MA.

None of them are NATURALLY Americans.

One is only NATURALLY an American when one CANNOT be anything else.

Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents.
The children of foreign nationals are PRECISELY who the founders were excluding as they are born with divided citizenship and are NOT NATURALLY Americans.


4 posted on 02/03/2020 9:56:16 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Japan, India, and Singapore”

In what way are those countries part of the “Anglosphere”? They may have been colonies at one point but they hate the British.

And why should the US tell our ancestral countries in Europe - which are not just the British isles - to pound sand?

The problem with the EU is that it was imposed, not accepted democratically. The Lisbon Treaty was a desperation move after the original EU Constitution was rejected by France and the Netherlands. So the current iteration of the EU is merely a bureaucratic coup that no sane nation would sign up to.

Europe needs to have at least a loose confederation and the Maastricht treaty was a reasonable baseline. A United States of Europe is probably never possible because of history: shedding the identity of the populations would only be done by force, not willingly.

We all know that the EU aristocracy plan to end such silly things as national identity by flooding Europe with foreigners to dilute the populace into just another squabbling minority. That’s one of the reasons British people voted to leave.

But they didn’t vote to become Mumbai North. Just not a municipal subdivision of French bureaucrats in Brussels.

Europe still needs to find a framework to live together without internecine massacres every 20 years requiring the United States to intercede. Being part of an ersatz trade union including the old Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Spheres is not the answer.


5 posted on 02/03/2020 10:07:19 AM PST by Regulator
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Peter Hitchens writes of when he was moved the most by the plight of a lone Englishman, a shop-keeper Steve Thoburn, who refused to sell in EU-mandated kilograms and instead chose to sell in imperial measures, like pounds. The relentless harassment that ensued is a stuff of legends in these isles.

Hitchens writes, “I watched a British shopkeeper called Steve Thoburn be spitefully, relentlessly prosecuted for the crime of selling bananas to his customers in English pounds rather than continental kilograms. This is the kind of thing that makes me uncontainably furious; I glimpsed for the first time what each of the multiple humiliations of subjugation and occupation by foreigners must feel like. And at that point I became what my old friend had been: an Ancient Mariner, eyes glittering, gnarled fingers clutching the wrists of passersby, gripped with a seething passion I could not communicate. Who cares about your silly old ounces and inches and furlongs? And yet I did, involuntarily.”

Thoburn died of a heart attack in 2004, but I wish he were alive to see this day.
I'd guess that if he had no prior history of heart trouble, he didn't die of natural causes.

6 posted on 02/03/2020 10:08:28 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Regulator

Singaporeans don’t hate the British at all. They are a city state founded by Sir Stamford Raffles in 1819 and view him as their national hero who founded they city as a British colony. The Indians have no love for the British or the age of imperialism, but unlike India, Singorpore has its origins as a British colony, it simply didn’t exist beforehand and they know that much of its prosperity is owed to the British liberal traditions bequeathed to them as a colony.

Japan obviously isn’t part of the Anglosphere.


7 posted on 02/03/2020 10:24:10 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

“ Japan obviously isn’t part of the Anglosphere.”

Culturally you are somewhat correct but Japan was Americanized to some degree after its defeat in WW II and the postwar occupation. When nations fight each other hard as ours did there grows a mutual respect and an understanding of the vices and virtues of the other. Japan may not love the US but they at least acknowledge we are not an evil people and that we have many common interests.

Would not you want friends with guns if you lived so close to China?


8 posted on 02/03/2020 10:41:30 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (If the Trump Administration doesn't prosecute the coup plotters he loses the election in 2020)
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To: SeekAndFind
As the Big Ben gong struck 11 p.m. GMT on January 31, marking the moment the United Kingdom left the European Union, thousands of people started singing “Rule Britannia”

I wish Farage, et al, would have sung that as they exited the EU Parliament, REALLY rubbing salt in their wounds.

9 posted on 02/03/2020 11:27:49 AM PST by Oatka
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes...the US,Britain,Canada and Australia should have a very tight relationship. That would include trade,diplomacy,defense.


10 posted on 02/03/2020 11:42:23 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Knew there would be one guy saying this.

A little anecdote: shared an office with a guy who came to America as a refugee from Mao’s revolution. He spent a long time in HK waiting for entry to the US (was in the ‘50s).

Asked him how the HK Chinese really felt about the British considering they created a commercial juggernaut there.

He admitted to me “they hate them”.

Human beings are human. Chinese are Chinese, they like their own kind. No matter how beneficent a foreign master is, there will never come a time when they feel comfy being ruled by them. Or even just co-existing with them.

Nice that England left a functioning beacon of Western Republicanism and free market commercialism in East Asia for the Asians to adopt. But I don’t think it makes it England, or Australia, or even New Zealand.


11 posted on 02/03/2020 11:59:05 AM PST by Regulator
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To: SeekAndFind

Closer relationships should wait on Britain to clean out the fascist government policies that favor Muslims, restrict free speech and other terrible policies.


12 posted on 02/03/2020 12:09:18 PM PST by Midwesterner53
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting...

I have believed for decades, FVEY was likely in a first gen genesis.


13 posted on 02/03/2020 1:26:21 PM PST by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!))
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To: Regulator

I’ve visited Singapore four times in the past year. There are still streets named after Victorian heroes, and Stamford Raffles’ statue stands with pride of place on the spot he first landed over 200 years ago.

Singapore is not comparable to Hong Kong, it is not a Chinese monoethnic place like Hong Kong is, it is a multicultural city state with a large Indian and Malaysian component in its population make up. There is no hatred for the British in Singapore like there is in India. Even today they have a British officer seconded from the British Army commanding the Gurkha Contingent of the Singapore police, they simply don’t have the same hang-up about the British that the Indians have, they have no reason to. The only main sore point is the fact that we surrendered to the Japanese and left Singapore to suffer 4 years of brutal occupation before the British returned, but that isn’t really as much of a cause of resentment as say, the Crushing of the Sepoy Rebellion or the Jallianwala Bagh massacre.


14 posted on 02/03/2020 2:11:04 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: SeekAndFind
The combined economic and military potential of the United States, U.K., Canada, Australia, and New Zealand can overwhelm any other trade bloc or geopolitical power.


Or, to say it another way:

The combined economic and military potential of these United States can overwhelm any other trade bloc or geopolitical power.
15 posted on 02/03/2020 2:11:56 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: SeekAndFind
Excellent half-hour speech today by Boris Johnson on his plans for free trade, post-Brexit. It takes a minute to get into, but very much worth it.

Boris Johnson threatens to COLLAPSE Brexit trade talks if EU insist we stick by their rules

16 posted on 02/03/2020 3:34:12 PM PST by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Army Air Corps; indthkr; Lurkinanloomin; Regulator; SunkenCiv; sinsofsolarempirefan; ...

See post 16 for link to Boris Johnson giving a robust preview of his plans for free trade, post-Brexit.


17 posted on 02/03/2020 3:38:28 PM PST by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Albion Wilde

Thanks!


18 posted on 02/03/2020 3:44:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Albion Wilde

The guy exudes energy and enthusiasm. Its no wonder so many people voted for him even after voting Labour all their lives.


19 posted on 02/03/2020 3:56:20 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Albion Wilde
I'm about halfway through, he hasn't said anything new, I love Boris, and he's scary brilliant, but he's also full of it. The only "hear, hear" so far was about Scotch Whisky exports to the US. Haggis joke was funny. :^) It's hilarious that he stresses animal welfare at least twice in the first half of his speech, then complains about not being able to sell British beef and lamb to the US. :^)

20 posted on 02/03/2020 4:47:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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