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Wuhan Coronavirus Looks Increasingly Like a Pandemic, Experts Say
New York Times ^ | Feb 3, 2020 | Donald G. McNeil jr

Posted on 02/02/2020 8:44:49 PM PST by 11th_VA

The Wuhan coronavirus spreading from China is now likely to become a pandemic that circles the globe, according to many of the world’s leading infectious disease experts.

The prospect is daunting. A pandemic — an ongoing epidemic on two or more continents — may well have global consequences, despite the extraordinary travel restrictions and quarantines now imposed by China and other countries, including the United States.

Scientists do not yet know how lethal the new coronavirus is, however, so there is uncertainty about how much damage a pandemic might cause. But there is growing consensus that the pathogen is readily transmitted between humans.

The Wuhan coronavirus is spreading more like influenza, which is highly transmissible, than like its slow-moving viral cousins, SARS and MERS, scientists have found...

(Excerpt) Read more at google.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2019ncov; ccp; china; chinavirus; coronavirus; pandemic; wuhan
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To: 11th_VA

CoronaVirus will be horrible in China and could be even worse in N Korea and Africa where there is little support structure for such a disaster and the people of those countries.


21 posted on 02/02/2020 9:15:23 PM PST by TexasCruzin (Trump is the man. #TrumpPence16)
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To: allendale

Hot toddy guy is a white looking brit in wuhan..


22 posted on 02/02/2020 9:15:54 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Hot toddy guy claims he refused antibiotics

I guess he gambled that, if he croaked..., at least he would be consuming ample quantities of booze... I can relate!

23 posted on 02/02/2020 9:17:20 PM PST by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: 11th_VA

Despite what the Chinese gov has done it is still growing exponentially. John Hopkins has a 2% mortality at this time, however, the actual number is higher because with the 17K infected it still needs to play out. This is really bad shit.


24 posted on 02/02/2020 9:18:57 PM PST by Dennis M.
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To: ExSES

Antibiotics are pretty much useless against a virus.
Vaccination was the way to go but you can’t use it against unknown.
Real antiviral drugs were first developed to counter AIDS and yet to prove to be really effective.


25 posted on 02/02/2020 9:19:26 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Hiv drugs have been curing these people


26 posted on 02/02/2020 9:21:49 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: bigbob

27 posted on 02/02/2020 9:22:45 PM PST by Bobalu (Pray to God for the continued protection of Donald Trump, he is our last chance IMO.)
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To: RummyChick

Now consider a cost of HIV therapy. How do you get enough for a million people on short order?


28 posted on 02/02/2020 9:27:53 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

Or the cost of hospitalization. What percentage are developing pneumonia?


29 posted on 02/02/2020 9:30:56 PM PST by Dennis M.
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To: Dennis M.

Not that much reliable information available to answer your question at this point. The Chinese are clearly struggling to provide any sort of care to everyone who needs it. To consider they are able to administer HIV therapy to everyone is beyond silly.


30 posted on 02/02/2020 9:34:35 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: null and void

Close the borders ... it’s for the children!

And while we’re at it end abortion. No abortion means reduced demand for bodies from elsewhere to pad population numbers.


31 posted on 02/02/2020 9:37:07 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: 11th_VA

From a few individual case histories, diarrhea was one of the symptoms. It wasn’t mentioned in widely circulated lists of symptoms to watch for.

I suspect that contaminated surfaces were neglected early on with this one. Notice the masks worn in the East, but also notice the lack of hand washing training in many parts of the East. The virus will live up to about one hour on a clean, dry surface.

If the virus strikes and begins to take a noticeable toll here, retailers and others with heavy traffic need to have all surfaces cleaned with disinfectants continuously.

Restrooms in those establishments should be closed to the public (employees only). Otherwise, everyone including customers will be at very high risk of infection. Customers need to know what they’re purchasing before arriving. Employees should all be trained on how to properly wear gloves, properly take them off, proper disposal of gloves, hand washing, etc.

Employers should be prepared to give all employees who usually deal directly with customers leaves of absences, and be prepared to temporarily close businesses. Stock shelves overnight, and relegate all customers to self-checkouts.

You can post protected loss prevention (gloves, masks, long sleeves, hoods/hats, etc.) here and there to watch things, and loss prevention personnel won’t need to get very close to customers. Loss prevention can also watch doors. There won’t be much customer traffic during a big die-off anyway.

Everyone would be smarter to stock up on food and other necessities in advance and prepare for *2 months* at home without going out in built up areas or to gathering places at all. Maybe most of us can survive a first wave that way.


32 posted on 02/02/2020 9:43:36 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: ExSES

My Grandmother died of the Spanish Flu. My Dad was 5 months old.


33 posted on 02/02/2020 9:50:36 PM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: TexasCruzin

How is it going to get into North Korea?

Didn’t they shut down last week?


34 posted on 02/02/2020 9:51:41 PM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: familyop

I sort of agree.

I was going all-in on preparing for this for a week, and am now sort of prepared.

My wife was sort of laughing at me, but is also letting me go, now I believe we can hole up for a month here, anyway, might look at two months now.

Gonna get sick of dried soup, but we have a small stove with a gas unit, for an emergency.


35 posted on 02/02/2020 10:00:32 PM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: TexasCruzin

Dare not post my first thoughts on that.
No, not gonna do it, but still thinking it!


36 posted on 02/02/2020 10:03:24 PM PST by Ex gun maker. (Unconstitutional "Law" is void from inception.....)
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To: caww
THe CDC chart shows the flu is mild this year, at least in terms of percent of cases hospitalized. Of course, that could reflect last year was a bad year.

But the flu is widespread right now...


37 posted on 02/02/2020 10:11:31 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: BobL

It’s already started here. It only takes one, we have nine that are known and proven, who knows how many others.


38 posted on 02/02/2020 10:13:39 PM PST by reardensteel
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To: 11th_VA

updated map with lists of dead... and new cases country by country... (Johns Hopkins CSSE)

http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap


39 posted on 02/02/2020 10:14:40 PM PST by GOPJ (Democrats stand for crime, corruption and chaos -Trump http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap)
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To: familyop
The virus will live up to about one hour on a clean, dry surface.

Do you have a source for that information? All I can find that it is unknown. Seems strange that it could be unknown unless they don't want us to know. I notice that most other viruses survive much longer than one hour on a clean, dry surface, too.

40 posted on 02/02/2020 10:15:54 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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