Posted on 01/29/2020 3:49:52 PM PST by Kaslin
Weve all heard this before about the 2020 field. Theyre too liberal, too milquetoast, and their agenda really isnt appealing to blue-collar workers. They say they want to be the party for everyone. The reality is theyre just doubling down on the urban areas and hoping some more black voters and the Trump deranged and utterly insufferable professional elites to put them over the top. In other words, screw white working-class workers. Its a ruse. Again, you all know this, but Democrats continue to ignore the Electoral College game. Its very possible, in factits likely, that the 2020 Democratic nominee gets more popular votes, but once again loses the election due to not being able to clinch 270. Democrats, its no secret that youre going to win the densely populated, hobo-riddled, and the crap-infested state of California. What about the Rust Belt? Yeah, thats what I thought. Theres a reason we have an Electoral College.
But back to the point here. We know the Democratic health agenda is literally taking away peoples health care, with the cannibalization of 150+ million private health care plans thanks to Medicare for All. That includes union workers, and it isnt popular. Its not popular to bash federal immigration officers. Its not popular to decriminalize border crossings. And its certainly not popular to give illegal aliens health care. Yet, this issue might kill their hopes before a nominee is even selected. In Pennsylvania, even Democrats know that a ban on fracking would kill hundreds of thousands of jobs related to the industry of natural gas. Without the Keystone State, the Democrats are cooked. Even Democrats in Pennsylvania who have a more environmental streak know this is a losing message and could push the state out of reach (via NYT):
Though they are both Democrats, John Fetterman, Pennsylvanias lieutenant governor, and Bill Peduto, this citys [Pittsburgh] mayor, have their differences on the environment.Mr. Fetterman, who toppled an incumbent Democrat in 2018 from the left, nevertheless calls Pennsylvania the Saudi Arabia of natural gas and sees extracting and taxing gas as critical to the states economy and the union way of life. Mr. Peduto lobbied unsuccessfully against a local petrochemical plant and is steering his once-struggling steel town to be independent of fossil fuels within 15 years.
But they agree on one thing: a pledge to ban all hydraulic fracturing, better known as fracking, could jeopardize any presidential candidates chances of winning this most critical of battleground states and thus the presidency itself. So as Senators Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren woo young environmental voters with a national fracking ban, these two Democrats are uneasy.
In Pennsylvania, youre talking hundreds of thousands of related jobs that would be they would be unemployed overnight, said Mr. Fetterman, who endorsed Mr. Sanders in 2016 before Donald J. Trump won his state, pop. 12.8 million, by just over 44,000 votes. Pennsylvania is a margin play, he added. And an outright ban on fracking isnt a margin play.
Mr. Peduto said the Warren-Sanders, ban-all-fracking-right-now position would absolutely devastate communities throughout the Rust Belt and pit environmentalists against workers at a time when Democrats need both.
If a candidate comes into this state and tries to sell that policy, theyre going to have a hard time winning, he said.
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The cracker is shorthand for a $6 billion Royal Dutch Shell petrochemical complex under construction in Beaver County, just northwest of Pittsburgh, that will convert ethane, a natural gas liquid fracked in Southwestern Pennsylvania, into pellets for plastic manufacturing. It gets its nickname from the chemical reaction known as cracking.
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Mr. Peduto said that was, in part, why he has opposed the cracker plant. The people in the Rust Belt are being sold false hope of, Just sacrifice your land and your air and your water one more time and we will provide you with all of these jobs, he said.
Yet he had a warning for national Democrats. This presidential race comes down to about ten states, he said. And if you are trying to pass universal bans, it will never happen.
Oh, and you bet the ban all fracking stance from Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders is going to impact the union vote in the state. If these two are nominated, union leaders are going to do two things: vote for Trump or sit out. Yeah, Democrats are really the working mans party, right:
Union leaders meeting for lunch one recent afternoon at an Italian restaurant on the outskirts of Pittsburgh said they could not afford to be dismissive of jobs like the ones constructing the cracker plant, where wages, pensions and benefits can run into the six figures.At the end of the day, if I dont have a job, if I dont have health care, if I cant take care of my family, it doesnt matter if we have global peace and gun control and everything else, said Jeff Nobers, executive director of the Builders Guild of Western Pennsylvania.
This is one of the most robust economies in the country, Mr. Nobers added, and its mostly fueled by, yeah, the gas industry, the burgeoning petrochemical industry, manufacturing. And you have politicians that say, no, we dont need this because theres 200 people working for Google in East Liberty, referring to a shining commercial area of Pittsburgh.
Four of the labor leaders, all Democrats who said they supported Mrs. Clinton in 2016, said they would most likely sit out the 2020 election if Mr. Sanders or Ms. Warren were the nominee.
If we end up with a Democratic candidate that supports a fracking ban, Im going to tell my members that they either dont vote or vote for the other guy, said James T. Kunz Jr., business manager of the International Union of Operating Engineers.
A fifth labor leader, a registered Democrat, said he had voted for Mr. Trump and that he intended to do so again.
At the end of the day, the core of the Democratic message in 2020 is were not Donald Trump. No kidding. Beyond thatthey have nothing. Nothing that doesnt raise taxes, increase regulations and kills jobs. A national race where the opposition is content with just being the anti factor on the stage isnt enough. Romney was the anti-Obama. Kerry was the anti-Bush. They both lost.
This isnt hard. If Democrats werent insane, had an agenda that focused on jobs, and better trade deals, they couldin theorymake trouble for Trump. The problem is that Trump has kept promises on those fronts. This warning about the dangers of pushing for fracking bans has been underreported. Thats fine by me. Stay ignorant, Democrats. Please. Do. Also, it looks like Ohio is off the map too if either Warren or Sanders is nominated. And sorry, I dont think Joe has the juice to flip the state with his knucklehead performance thus far.
I've heard Bernie Sanders can empty a room with his big supply of gas. He won't run out. But people will.
Huh. Who’d a thunk it? I didn’t think the Democrats had any hope for 2020.
Here is what I see happening. The RAT party is busy carpet bombing their current crop of losers. By the Nominating Convention it will be obvious that none of these clowns is Presidential material or has a chance in hell of winning. At that time they beg Hillary to save them and be their nominee. She “reluctantly” agrees having avoided all the RAT debates and campaigning. The RATS (facing 4 more years of the hated Orange man, destroyer of the Universe) enthusiastically embrace Hitlery. In their minds she beat Trump in 2016, and most if not all those who voted for her in 2016 will vote for her again. It’s their best shot by far.

All good and fine, but it doesn’t matter what the Democrat candidates intend, as none of them will make it to November.
Nope, all that matters is where Skunk Cabbage is on this issue...she WILL be the candidate, bet on it.
To save people time here is Isaiah 5:20——
Isaiah 5:20 King James Version (KJV)
20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Thank you for posting that
“There will be tears and cheers from the liberals. They will have to roll out (perhaps literally) this ill, lying witch one more time.”
Exactly. Hillary was robbed. She won but Trump stole the election from her. It’s only fair she gets a second chance to make things right. That’s how they see it.

There is a reason that it is under-reported.
Pretty much anything detrimental to the Democrats is under-reported. And extremely unlikely to be anything else anywhere along the way.
A note to Pennsylvanians:
No matter WHO the democrats nominate, banning fracking WILL be their policy. They might lie to get your vote and say they're not for this, but this is democrat policy.
Don't be like Virginians, and believe the democrats are harmless to your way of life.
Then the Bernie Bros start campaigning for President Trump out of revenge.
Democrats are laser focused on impeachment and appeasing queer folk. That is all. Period.
Fat chance! (pun intended)
First, the Bernie-bots say they will not vote for her (or anyone) if Bernie gets screwed at the convention.
Second, there are already 100s of thousands of 2016 Hillary voters who now say they're pro-Trump and will vote for him.
Most if not all will vote for her again?
Nope! Not going to happen!
She lost Pennsylvania in 2016. The loss will be much, much larger in 2020 if she runs.
Current money is
Berine
Or Michelle Obama.
Honestly, Bernie is the most dangerous candidate
First, the Bernie-bots say they will not vote for her (or anyone) if Bernie gets screwed at the convention.”
Do you really believe that? That’s what they say in the primary. They’ve waited for 4 years to vote against Trump. The hatred is so great they would walk thru fire to vote against him.
“Second, there are already 100s of thousands of 2016 Hillary voters who now say they’re pro-Trump and will vote for him.”
Where did you get that number? Besides Hillary had 2 million votes more than Trump. A few hundred thousand is nothing.
“Most if not all will vote for her again? Nope! Not going to happen!”
Why not? What’s changed? Who is their strongest candidate? You are whistling past the graveyard.
“She lost Pennsylvania in 2016. The loss will be much, much larger in 2020 if she runs.”
You are forgetting the cheating factor. The RATS going to cheat their azzes off generally and double that in any state that was close. As usual the Repubs seem oblivious to that.
I agree with this article.
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