Posted on 01/24/2020 9:51:30 AM PST by Zhang Fei
China's communist rulers draw on a deep well of public acquiesence -- partly due to control of the internet, no free press and a brutally efficient security apparatus.
"I can't imagine there would be too many countries that would be able to do something on this scale as quickly as China has done," Kamradt-Scott said.
Even so, Kamradt-Scott warned a lockdown that extends for a week or more would produce "growing levels of discontent and frustration".
- Quarantine 'illusion' -
Kamradt-Scott said that, even though the virus would inevitably spread, the quarantine appeared designed to buy authorities time to put in place other measures.
He cited China's plans to build a 1,000-bed hospital in Wuhan in just 10 days.
Zi, from the S. Rajaratnam School, also said there was some hope the quarantines would have a level of success in containing the outbreak.
"I believe it is possible given China's expertise in this area of population control, or urban control," Zi said.
Yet the history of quarantine suggests controls will be far from watertight.
The concept emerged in Venice in the 14th century, where ships arriving at the city state from infected ports were held offshore for 40 days.
Over the centuries the US attempted quarantines to combat yellow fever, European nations tried to subdue cholera outbreaks, and several West African nations sealed off townships to hem in Ebola in the last decade.
Quarantine is "purely an illusion", said Bruno Halioua, a historian of medicine at the University of Paris IV.
"Quarantine has never worked. Each time, there have been problems."
And after seeing the situation in Wuhan first-hand, Guan Yi of Hong Kong University shared an equally pessimistic outlook.
"I've never felt scared," Guan said. "This time I'm scared."
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Good point.
[The Chicoms don’t care if millions die, they just don’t want it to be disruptive. ]
True, Did they quarantine the caves where the bats who have the disease are contained?
There's nothing special about that. Hadriness is common feature of those viruses. The question in that case is how easily can you get infected from that contaminated surface, and I don't think that has been answered. Typically it is difficult to get infected that way.
My son is going to Hong Kong and then Singapore soon. What are the odds his company will cancel the trips. It’s all those people jammed into a confined space on an airplane that worries me the most.
Once you’ve seen enough of these scares the next scare merely produces contempt for those hyping fear and those foolish enough to panic over it.
I hope they cancel his trip.
Hardiness
Wuhan has a population of NYC and LA combined. They could block major highways but anything beyond that is completely upon the people. Pinky swear you won’t leave. Just wait until the natives get restless.
> Dictatorships work differently from democracies in one important way - the losers in factional rivalries can end up in prison or much, much worse.
It happens in democracies also, they’re just not as honest about it.
Look at the Dems drooling over themselves to find a reason to put Trump in jail... and when they fail they themselves will end up in prison (or hanged) for the seditious attempt.
He should postpone that trip, period, don’t even wait for the company.
[Wuhan has a population of NYC and LA combined. They could block major highways but anything beyond that is completely upon the people. Pinky swear you won’t leave. Just wait until the natives get restless.]
.gov cries wolf so often they have zero credibility.
Of course if we could use that as an excuse to clamp down on illegal immigration that would be making lemonade out of lemons.
[Wuhan has a population of NYC and LA combined. They could block major highways but anything beyond that is completely upon the people. Pinky swear you won’t leave. Just wait until the natives get restless.]
Infectious Disease Ping - Update Wuhan (airborne pneumonia)virus - China & Elsewhere
Caution is advised, especially if traveling, or in confined areas (ie.: airplane).
Avoid large groups. Be aware,.. and take proactive actions.
This is not the time to panic - but to prepare !
Confirmed cases in the US - Texas, Washington State, Chicago and elsewhere.
See earlier posting : CDC coronavirus/influenza prevention and responses at :
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3810445/posts
Get real, nothing can be done to stop any kind of serious out-break, it has to run it’s course, that’s all there is to it.
And the land area keeps increasing. Test shortages will also affect the numbers reported.
https://www.winterwatch.net/2020/01/whats-this-new-coronavirus-outbreak-really-all-about/
“Now, we learn at the time of this posting that eleven cities: Zhijiang, Enshi, Qianjiang, Huangshi, Wuhan, Huangging, Xiantao, Chibi, Hubei, Tianmen and Ezhou totaling 33 million are being quarantined and public transport shut down. There are also concerns about a winter food shortage.
Chinese officials have raised the alert level to 1 (highest possible level).
The numbers announced as shown at left are go to lag, as China, faces such a shortage of coronavirus test-kits that people say getting one is like ‘winning the lottery’.”
It would have little economic impact in China if 22 million Chinese died from this disease. Of course the spread to other modern countries is the problem.
Health care in China is very sparse. Mere speculation, but many more people could die from disease in that country and nobody would know. Their government values human life very little.
Most businesses would cancel the trip if the danger is real. If anything, just postpone and see how it all plays out. I wouldn’t worry too much about it.
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