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Elizabeth Warren responds after angry dad confronts her on student loans
CBS "News" ^ | January 24, 2020 | By NICOLE BROWN

Posted on 01/24/2020 6:37:40 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Today [cheap tuition is] not available.”

BS.

You can learn d@mn near anything you want, free, via Internet. The proliferation of free books, free courses, free curriculum, free tutoring, etc is absolutely staggering. Most major universities provide online courses free (see ocw.mit.edu for starters).

Insofar as not everything is free, much is cheap.

The only thing arguably expensive is _certification_ - which is just a notable entity acknowledging “yes, you know X”.

Couple with that the proliferation of free money available on a huge array of pretexts.
Even Warren lied about her ethnicity just to get it.
Skin color.
Gender.
Social affiliation.
Religious affiliation.
Good grades.
Local.
International.
Sports.
Disabilities however construed.
Music.
Employer benefits.

My second degree was mostly employer-paid.
My wife’s third degree was free (UGA wanted foreign/female/4.0 to brag on).
My daughter, when picking an instrument for middle school band, was told “pick oboe, French horn, or other obscure instrument and your scholarships will be prolific” (argh, she picked flute).

But no.
Elizabeth Warren et al want to undermine all those options by paying off - with the money of others - those who “just sign here on the dotted line, you’ll afford the payments later”.


41 posted on 01/24/2020 7:05:13 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Democrats oppose democracy.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

$50/semester? I guess it pays to be an Indian native.


42 posted on 01/24/2020 7:06:18 AM PST by wiseprince
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

$50/semester? I guess it pays to be an Indian native.


43 posted on 01/24/2020 7:06:21 AM PST by wiseprince
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"There was $50 a semester option for me. I was able to go to college and become a public school teacher because America had invested in a $50 a semester option for me," she said. "Today that's not available."

Actually Liz, there is an option available where the government will pay for your schooling. It's called join the military and access all of the programs they have to put you through college. The young people today have far better college options from the military than I did when I joined at 17.

By the way Liz, did any of these people 'saddled with college debt' have a gun put to their head and forced to take out loans and go to college? Oh, that's right it was their choice. Perhaps we should rail against the evil greedy college institutions and make them forgive the college debt? Your side does that for every other business, why not Big College?
44 posted on 01/24/2020 7:06:56 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Free me from debt and I can travel the world.
45 posted on 01/24/2020 7:07:30 AM PST by Chgogal (Never underestimate the stupidity of a DummycRAT voter. Proof: California, New York, Illinois.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“... but went into a story about how she was given a shot to go to college even though her family “had no money.” ...”

Yeah... She fake-claimed her way into school through a fake Affirmative Action claim that she was part American Indian.


46 posted on 01/24/2020 7:07:41 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: KC_Conspirator
Yep. That is THE major part of the equation which nobody talks about. Both of my parents taught at the university level and made less than unionized high school teachers because public policy in that day stressed making college affordable.

Today, when both benefits and salary are calculated, college faculty makes well out of proportion to what their counterparts do in the private sector with similar qualifications and workloads (with some private school exceptions) mainly because the abundance of government loan money has made it possible.

Any loan forgiveness needs to be accompanied by putting at least a portion of those loans back on the institutions which benefited from them and getting the government out of the loan business completely.

Loan rates should be based on the probability of a particular field of study turning into an actually professional career. IOW, quite low for someone majoring in nursing or engineering and high for somebody majoring in professional victim studies.

47 posted on 01/24/2020 7:08:00 AM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s all about buying votes and pandering. Money is no object.


48 posted on 01/24/2020 7:08:33 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The (fake) squaw is just banking on getting as many votes as possible from Leftists with college debt. How many is that anyway? Enough to swing an election? Or is she hoping to get on the ticket of the nominee or a Cabinet position (Education?!! Ha ha..).


49 posted on 01/24/2020 7:08:36 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: jaydubya2; Dilbert San Diego

When tuition is “free”:
- cost will keep rising until running out of taxpayer money
- tangential costs will skyrocket
= required books, on-site housing, other suddenly discovered costs will get even more expensive

Don’t try to outsmart “supply and demand”. Never works out. Want to lower tuition costs? get gov’t completely out of the loan business; make tuition fully deductible, if not an outright 1:1 tax credit.


50 posted on 01/24/2020 7:09:50 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Democrats oppose democracy.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Free College” takes power away from parents and gives it to Universities.

Dad says ‘we want you to major in something that offers job prospects after four years or we aren’t paying your tuition.

University says, ‘major is gender research’ with required S&M class4es.

Either way “Dad” pays - through increased taxes or directly - but one way he can help his son/daughter and the other way he can’t...


51 posted on 01/24/2020 7:10:12 AM PST by GOPJ (Will MSNBC bimbos go moist talking to Lev Parnas like they did with Michael Avenatti?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Nobody forces someone to go to college and incur debt for their degree in Twelfth Century Tibetan Poetry and Medieval Classical Studies.


52 posted on 01/24/2020 7:10:34 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: LIConFem

She’d rather saddle everybody else with their debt.

Typical collectivist moron.


53 posted on 01/24/2020 7:10:57 AM PST by Westbrook
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To: ctdonath2

Look Fauxahautis is crazy but the problem of runaway tuition inflation IS REAL.


54 posted on 01/24/2020 7:10:58 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

It is simply the result of almost free money. Promoted by the NEA and parasites like democrappers up and down the political and educational swamp.


55 posted on 01/24/2020 7:11:17 AM PST by whistleduck
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Well, then, why do we have to earn anything or pay for anything??

We should not be burdened by the cost of life, right???

I can just sit in Starbucks all day and look at Instagram, while I bemoan the privilege of others, and celebrate my victim-hood.


56 posted on 01/24/2020 7:12:32 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We need to get away from using the word “free.” There is no such thing. Somebody has to pay for it. It may not be the one who benefits, but sooner or later the bill comes due.


57 posted on 01/24/2020 7:12:37 AM PST by IronJack
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To: LIConFem
Sorry, but we’re not saddling anyone with student loan debt.

Its a massive, corrupt, Federal government money spigot funding a large, leftist political base. Government’s present control of the debt spigot through Dept. of Education is no different than the government debt spigot that caused the 2007 housing crisis.

58 posted on 01/24/2020 7:12:45 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Look for her to start pitching the macroeconomic argument.

No, her argument would be: "Freeing them from this debt will allow them to pay more taxes so that we can hire more federal bureaucrats with fat pensions and pay for "free" dick/vagina swap surgery for illegal aliens."

59 posted on 01/24/2020 7:12:53 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
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To: KC_Conspirator

“We don’t build an America by saddling our kids with debt.”

But if we saddle everyone with poverty causing taxes to pay for Democrats ideas, we’ll destroy America much faster and then declare we need a totalitarian government to straighten out the mess.


60 posted on 01/24/2020 7:13:28 AM PST by spudville
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