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1 posted on 01/19/2020 5:33:24 AM PST by billorites
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Humpty Dumpty says an impeachable offense is whatever I say it is


2 posted on 01/19/2020 5:42:16 AM PST by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule)
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To: billorites

The ‘Rats announced their intention to impeach back in 2016.

In other words, the ground for impeachment is that a candidate won who is not a Democrat Party choice.


3 posted on 01/19/2020 5:44:52 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: billorites
The US Supreme Court should--in fact must--declare this "impeachment" unconstitutional.

(1) It does not meet the criteria for impeachment cited specifically in the Constitution: treason, bribery, high crimes and misdemeanors; no crime was committed.

(2) For the Supreme Court to fail to declare this "impeachment" unconstitutional will make it legal de facto and de jure, and this will give the Legislative Branch of the Government carte blanche in the future to nullify the election to the Presidency of anyone the Legislative Branch wishes to impeach and for no constitutional reason, in fact for no reason whatsoever.

(3) Furthermore, this precedent establishes the authority of the Legislative Branch to impeach not only the President but also the Vice President, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the President Pro Tempore of the Senate, the Secretary of State, and so on down the line of succession until the Legislators find a President suitable to them.

(4) Thus this places the Legislative Branch in authority over the Executive Branch, inasmuch as the President et al. will serve at the pleasure of the Legislative Branch.

(5) It also gives the Legislative Branch de facto control of US elections inasmuch as legislators can impeach elected officials in sequence until they reach one they approve and establish him/her as President of the USA. The President will then serve only at the pleasure of the legislators, knowing that he/she can be impeached at any time and a President more favorable to them selected.

(6) It therefore nullifies the separation of powers between the Executive and Legislative Branches of the Government, making the Executive Branch subservient to the Legislative.

This precedent could not be more dangerous.

The Supreme Court MUST act immediately to establish the constitutionality of the impeachment process and the unconstitutionality of "impeachment" that does not meet the requirements cited in the Constitution.

Giuliani agrees. He must have been lurking here on Free Republic.

Rudy Giuliani: Supreme Court Should Dismiss The Impeachment Trial Against President Trump

”Rudy Giuliani argued that the Supreme Court should dismiss the impeachment trial against President Trump. "There's nothing in the Constitution that would allow the Supreme Court" to do that, Giuliani allowed, but "there’s also nothing in the Constitution that allows the Supreme Court to declare a law of Congress unconstitutional. Marshall made it up."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/01/12/rudy_giuliani_supreme_court_should_dismiss_the_impeachment_trial_against_president_trump.html


4 posted on 01/19/2020 5:45:15 AM PST by Savage Beast (George Orwell's 1984 nightmare is the Democrats' Dream.)
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This whole mess is caused by lack of objective rules of evidence to establish that a crime has been committed and to prove that the president committed one. The result of subjectivity is the actions of a lynch mob.


6 posted on 01/19/2020 6:33:19 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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Democrats themselves have taken Ukraine off the table by trivializing it with impeachment.

They lose the case in the Senate, it also loses value as a political issue against the President.

All because Democrats couldn’t help themselves in their hatred of Trump, Now they’re going to get hoist on their own petard.

Which is exactly why they shouldn’t have impeached him in the first place.


7 posted on 01/19/2020 6:37:21 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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We have to assume that Trump’s lawyers will, early on, ask Schiff to plainly lay out the laws broken and crimes committed by Trump.

Schiff will stand mute.

Early dismissal of impeachment charges.


8 posted on 01/19/2020 6:43:00 AM PST by odawg
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Adam Schiff is a smart guy. He did not idly dream up a “make up dirt” parody. He framed it because he knows that’s the kind of misconduct you would need to prove to warrant impeachment and removal of a president. In fact, Schiff could never prove that, but he figured parody is good enough for 2020 campaign purposes — and that’s what this exercise is all about.

Trump released the transcript the morning of the Schiff's make up dirt hearing. I read the transcript that morning. Then on the way home mid afternoon I listened to C-Span radio and heard the "parody". I was completely astounded. I actually think what happened is one of Schiff's staffers made up the fake transcript days before the hearing believing the transcript would not be released. At that point Schiff read the fake because that was the plan and he was sticking with it. Then a few days later he relabeled it a parody.

Adam Schiff is not a smart guy.

11 posted on 01/19/2020 6:57:43 AM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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A big hole is no crime was committed.
Only crimes revealed have all been by democrats taking huge bribes.

Trump Legal Team: Impeachment Articles ‘Constitutionally Invalid’
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/18/trump-legal-team-impeachment-articles-constitutionally-invalid/


16 posted on 01/19/2020 7:42:39 AM PST by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....)
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Obstructing Congress is not a crime, it’s the duty of any President worth his salt to obstruct insanity incarnate and Nancy Pelosi’s congress is insanity incarnate. Besides, every President since Washington has obstructed congress.


17 posted on 01/19/2020 7:58:06 AM PST by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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What I’m wondering is after the impeachment farce collapses of its own weight, will Trump, at some point, yank the Dems’ chain by telling some Putin stooge, loudly and publicly, “Tell Vladamir I’ll have more flexibility after the election.”?


18 posted on 01/19/2020 8:02:14 AM PST by Flash Bazbeaux
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However true the lack of an impeachable offense is, 45 Bolshies will vote for it.


19 posted on 01/19/2020 8:03:41 AM PST by depressed in 06 (60 in '20. Now, more than ever!)
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Yeah, but it’s the seriousness of the charges!

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So what if neither of the articles rise to the level.

Obstruction of Congress is moot. Branch vs Branch.

Abuse of Authority has to have at least some evidence of abuse. Even Shiffy could not find any and had to dismiss the whistleblower.


20 posted on 01/19/2020 8:05:38 AM PST by TomGuy
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We don’t leap from abuse to expulsion.

We do now. Once thought the last resort is now considered the first priority. It is now the expectation that (Republican) presidents be subjected to impeachment upon taking the office.

23 posted on 01/19/2020 9:03:13 AM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: billorites

Well written article.


24 posted on 01/19/2020 10:01:48 AM PST by CPT Clay (Q sent me)
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