Posted on 01/15/2020 6:05:47 AM PST by real saxophonist
Using Red Flag law, woman files paperwork against CSU officer who shot and killed her son
POSTED 6:11 PM, JANUARY 14, 2020, BY LORI JANE GLIHA, ERIC RUBLE AND ASHLEY MICHELS
LARIMER COUNTY, Colo. -- A woman has filed a petition and affidavit for an extreme risk protection order (ERPO) against the Colorado State University police officer who fatally shot her son in 2017.
The paperwork was filed Jan. 9. A judge will hear the case Thursday.
To file an ERPO, someone must meet certain conditions, such as living with or be related to the gun owner.
In the ERPO, under penalty of perjury, Susan Holmes claims she has a child in common with CSU police Officer Phillip Morris.
Holmes told the FOX31 Problems she planned to argue in court that she had a different interpretation of what “have a child in common” actually means.
Susan Holmes' son, Jeremy Holmes, 19, was killed during an encounter with Morris and another police officer on July 1, 2017. Holmes possessed a large hunting knife at the time and body camera footage shows he started running toward the officers with the weapon before they opened fire.
District Attorney Clifford Riedel found the shooting to be “clearly justified.”
In the ERPO, Holmes says Morris "used his firearm to recklessly and violently threaten and kill 19-year-old Jeremy Holmes."
The FOX31 Problem Solvers learned there are a total of five ERPOs filed in Colorado courts so far.
Two were filed in Denver County, two were filed in Larimer County and one was filed and denied in Lincoln County.
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Plea bargaining is the single most corrupting thing in the US judicial system. If you cannot convict on the original charge, then you should let them go. So many prosecutors over-charge in order to force a plea bargain. It looks good on their convictions record, whereas if they actually had to prove criminality, they’d not look so $#!+ hot.
Because it’s a devil of a job to hit an arm or leg while it’s a lot easier to hit center mass, especially when the perp is charging the cop with a deadly weapon.
The movies are stupid. It makes for interesting movies but would never happen in real life when seconds count and real lives are at risk.
Basically an unintended consequence
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Ah, those nasty little ‘unintended consequences’
Seem to recall when cell phones were first catching hold and CBs were the ‘big thing’ that CA(I think) was going to ban ANY communication while driving, including two-way radios, telephone, CB....etc etc etc...
It was getting a good push when someone asked how the cops were supposed to work without instant communications...
BACK to the drawing board....
I'm guessing the following apply here:
The question should be: can the officer bring charges against her. Clearly he had planned the whole thing since the charges were brought against the officer immediately after the Red Flag law came into effect.
Question: did the police or sheriff show up and demand his firearms and keep them until the officer was proven innocent?
Additionally, the suspect was already too close. A miss, or even a minor hit probably, almost certainly would not have stopped the assailant. He would have reached the officer and inflicted a wound, potentially a fatal wound, with the weapon he had.
I’d say that was a good shoot, a justified shooting. The cop was more than patient in trying to get him to drop the knife, even backing up.
At least you could tell the good guys (White hats) from the bad guys (Black hat)...
Can we still make that distinction?
A hit to the center of the target is actually safer for many reasons — stops the perp and avoids collateral damage.
No. That’s racist.
really?
The officer actually started to holster his weapon and say “I am going to try and take him”, and then Jeremy Holmes charged him.
The officer didn’t want to shoot, but Holmes must have wanted to die.
BTW, “filthy whore mother” is inaccurate and uncalled for. “Grief-crazed, bitter, vindictive” is more like it. What sexually charged words would you have called a father, or would you have at all?
Or invent time travel and give the father a box of condoms and/or a bus ticket out of town.
(Piling on here...)
Aw, never mind... you’ve already gotten enough replies to (hopefully) regret your post...
I thought the female officer might have been out of position to adequately back up her partner. To both of their credit, they engaged the moment he moved forward, but from her angle, her shots were getting closer to her partner than I would have been comfortable with.
Given that it was an extremely dynamic situation, I’m not sure how else it could have gone down, but talking through the video as part of an after-action analysis might lead to some good training tips.
I thought he said "Taze him"
Multiple studies have shown that a person with a knife who is within I forget, 20 feet?, is more dangerous than a person with a gun. I was taught that because I’m an old female, even if there is no visible gun or knife, I can shoot someone coming towards me who is yelling threats.
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