Posted on 01/15/2020 6:05:47 AM PST by real saxophonist
Using Red Flag law, woman files paperwork against CSU officer who shot and killed her son
POSTED 6:11 PM, JANUARY 14, 2020, BY LORI JANE GLIHA, ERIC RUBLE AND ASHLEY MICHELS
LARIMER COUNTY, Colo. -- A woman has filed a petition and affidavit for an extreme risk protection order (ERPO) against the Colorado State University police officer who fatally shot her son in 2017.
The paperwork was filed Jan. 9. A judge will hear the case Thursday.
To file an ERPO, someone must meet certain conditions, such as living with or be related to the gun owner.
In the ERPO, under penalty of perjury, Susan Holmes claims she has a child in common with CSU police Officer Phillip Morris.
Holmes told the FOX31 Problems she planned to argue in court that she had a different interpretation of what “have a child in common” actually means.
Susan Holmes' son, Jeremy Holmes, 19, was killed during an encounter with Morris and another police officer on July 1, 2017. Holmes possessed a large hunting knife at the time and body camera footage shows he started running toward the officers with the weapon before they opened fire.
District Attorney Clifford Riedel found the shooting to be “clearly justified.”
In the ERPO, Holmes says Morris "used his firearm to recklessly and violently threaten and kill 19-year-old Jeremy Holmes."
The FOX31 Problem Solvers learned there are a total of five ERPOs filed in Colorado courts so far.
Two were filed in Denver County, two were filed in Larimer County and one was filed and denied in Lincoln County.
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While I adamantly oppose Red Flag laws, and while I can see the political value of pointing out how those laws can be used against legal gun owner - this is beyond the pale.
A 19 year old is not a child. Even if one accepts her interpretation of “in common”, her son was not a child.
Police are not trained to shoot to wound.
“Child in common”, because it takes a village...
“why don’t cops aim for main arm or a leg. guy had a knife, if shot in arm or leg it would have stunned and thwarted advance of guy with knife. police were not in as much life threatening danger from the guy with knife to shoot to kill. I support poilce but some over react unnecessarily.”
You’ve never been attacked have you? Look up Tueller Drill on Youtube. You aim for center of mass and keep shooting until they go down.
Parents no longer see discipline as an investment for their children?
Their return is measured in court awards.
Outside movies and TV, what you suggest is impossible. Not even the most accurate shooter can successfully hit a moving limb unless at point blank range. Which places them in real danger from a man with a knife.
You are taught to aim at the center of a human torso (aka "center mass") This provide the greatest probability your round will strike the target, preventing them from killing/injuring you. Similarly, you don't simply fire one round, you fire until your target is down and neutralized.
She couldn’t get him fired directly, so she’s trying this approach.
Yep. But she’s inadvertently showing how silly this law is.
Arms and legs are too skinny to hit reliably unless you have an extra second to acquire a perfect sight picture. I fire 200-plus rounds per day, and I am nowhere near good enough to shoot the knife out of an attacker’s hand or even to reliably hit a moving limb on someone charging me with a knife. I will shoot center mass to stop the threat from someone who poses an immediate danger. I’m not betting my life on that second, not to save the life of someone who initiated the threat.
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Red flag laws are INTENDED to be misused.
But certainly not to disarm our "betters"!
The whole idea of shooting a weapon out of the hand of a person is truly false. Certainly Annie Oakley might have been able to do it but then again she was shooting at inanimate object that don't shoot back stab the person. When life and only seconds are available the office has to act and act sometimes with deadly force.
“Hard to accept” since he was not the father. It was a lie.
Combat soldiers/Marines have been known to say 'They don't pay you to bring back ammo.'
There are probably hundreds of pics on the web of cops who allowed a knife attacker to get too close and they aren’t pretty.
She raised a punk and it's someone else's fault...typical "progressive".
Shooting to wound is how you wind up dead in a life threatening situation.
Disarm the cops. Now the goal is clear.
What you suggest only happens in fictitious spaghetti westerns.
The whole idea of shooting a weapon out of the hand of a person is truly false
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‘Ya mean ya just can’t wingum’?
Are you trying to tell me—
that the cowboy riding through the gulch with 20 bad guys on the ‘top’ with rifles, firing DOWN on him (well they couldn’t hit him because the horse was moving) and the rider, galloping at full pace, a six shooter in each hand, picking the guys off the ridge with his 12 bullets shooting about 40 bad guys—
didn’t really happen?.
OH, another myth of childhood shot down the drain... HA HA
Doesn’t look like she has much of a case, but this does present an interesting twist on these bad ‘red flag’ laws.
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