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Who Signs Up to Fight? Makeup of U.S. Recruits Shows Glaring Disparity
New York Times ^ | 10 Jan 20 | https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/10/us/military-enlistment.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab

Posted on 01/13/2020 4:23:31 AM PST by Bruiser 10

COLORADO SPRINGS — The sergeant in charge of one of the busiest Army recruiting centers in Colorado, Sergeant First Class Dustin Comes, joined the Army, in part, because his father served. Now two of his four children say they want to serve, too. And he will not be surprised if the other two make the same decision once they are a little older.

“Hey, if that’s what your calling is, I encourage it, absolutely,” said Sergeant Comes, who wore a dagger-shaped patch on his camouflage uniform, signifying that he had been in combat.

Enlisting, he said, enabled him to build a good life where, despite yearlong deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, he felt proud of his work, got generous benefits, never worried about being laid off, and earned enough that his wife could stay home to raise their children.

“Show me a better deal for the common person,” he said.

Soldiers like him are increasingly making the United States military a family business. The men and women who sign up overwhelmingly come from counties in the South and a scattering of communities at the gates of military bases like Colorado Springs, which sits next to Fort Carson and several Air Force installations, and where the tradition of military service is deeply ingrained.

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Probably every empire in its late stages goes through something similar.
1 posted on 01/13/2020 4:23:31 AM PST by Bruiser 10
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To: Bruiser 10
Anytime the soldiers sign up because "it's a good deal" as a job, you have a real problem: soldiers are there to fight, to kill or be killed.

Soldiers who don't understand that are worse than useless in combat.

2 posted on 01/13/2020 4:28:23 AM PST by Chainmail (Remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
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To: Bruiser 10
who wore a dagger-shaped patch on his camouflage uniform, signifying that he had been in combat.

The dagger patch? Really?

3 posted on 01/13/2020 4:28:39 AM PST by SanchoP (Yippy,the next generation search engine.)
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To: SanchoP

That stuck out to me. The combat infantryman’s badge is not anything like a dagger. It is probably a unit or organizational emblem. As it is NYT, I am guessing the ‘reporter’ does not know the difference.


4 posted on 01/13/2020 4:32:48 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Chainmail

Agreed.

Remember during the 1st Gulf War when the deployments started and some of the troops were grumbling that they had signed up for the educational benefits and not to go off to war?

That was almost thirty years ago and I knew then we were in deep kim-chi as a nation.

Can’t say it’s improved any.


5 posted on 01/13/2020 4:33:12 AM PST by Bruiser 10 (Do you boogaloo?)
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To: SanchoP

Maybe it’s like the ‘rifle/wreath’ patch?

Hard to keep up anymore.


6 posted on 01/13/2020 4:35:10 AM PST by Bruiser 10 (Do you boogaloo?)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Methinks Sgt Comes tamped this reporter slam full of shit,if he even exists.


7 posted on 01/13/2020 4:36:30 AM PST by SanchoP (Yippy,the next generation search engine.)
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To: SanchoP

Never seen a triangular dagger patch.


8 posted on 01/13/2020 4:37:10 AM PST by HighSierra5
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To: SanchoP

Methinks you may be right. He saw an NYT soyboy and decided to have a bit of fun. And some made it into soyboy’s article.


9 posted on 01/13/2020 4:40:11 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Bruiser 10

I am not reading the Slimes for anything. Just like I have abandoned Dr-dge.


10 posted on 01/13/2020 4:40:44 AM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: HighSierra5

Nope but I’m a Marine.


11 posted on 01/13/2020 4:41:03 AM PST by SanchoP (Yippy,the next generation search engine.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt; SanchoP
Army Public Affairs uses a dagger/knife in their branch insignia, and this guy was talking to a presstitute . . .


12 posted on 01/13/2020 4:49:38 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Bruiser 10

This country wasn’t designed to have a large standing army. In fact, it was founded by men who never wanted their government to have such power.


13 posted on 01/13/2020 4:50:15 AM PST by Alberta's Child (In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.)
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To: Chainmail

True to a point. A majority of *soldiers* however fill roles in the ‘tail’, not the ‘head,’ particularly in the Army and Air force.

War fighters need REMFs for food, equipment and logistics.

Notice I did not include uncle Sam’s misguided children in this ...


14 posted on 01/13/2020 4:50:41 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Can you imagine? I’d have him tamped so full,he’d have dingleberries rolling out of his ears. I still remember an old gunny’s orders about reporters:
“You don’t have to talk to them but you can’t shoot ‘em.”


15 posted on 01/13/2020 4:50:48 AM PST by SanchoP (Yippy,the next generation search engine.)
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To: SanchoP
She referenced the cab in the article. The hyperlink wasn't carried over by the freeper. Dagger = M9 bayonet for some.

Combat Action Badge

16 posted on 01/13/2020 4:51:09 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: SanchoP

10th Mountain is has units are Ft Carson now. Crossed Daggers. If the patch is worn on the right shoulder that signifies you were deployed with that unit.


17 posted on 01/13/2020 4:51:18 AM PST by Newbomb Turk
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To: Bruiser 10
Probably every empire in its late stages goes through something similar.

The US isn't an empire. And American military spending is low compared to much of the Cold War. The real problem is government spending on the civilian sector. This has skyrocketed from about 15% of annual production to about 30%. Whereas defense has gone down from about 10% during the Eisenhower era to about 4% today.


18 posted on 01/13/2020 4:53:16 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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I was referring more to an hereditary military class.

All empires I think also have the problem of what to do with the children of the scribes.


19 posted on 01/13/2020 4:56:39 AM PST by Bruiser 10 (Do you boogaloo?)
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To: Bruiser 10; All
The fact of the matter is this, an all-volunteer force is still 1000x's better than the draft – The military can be selective as to who they hire.

The vast majority of the young people that join the military today still join out of a deep sense of pride in country and commitment to nation.

President Trump has given a lot of young people a renewed sense of Patriotism -- Something that I noticed during the eight years of Oblahblah was falling off.

This nation will continue to be blessed with warriors (men and women) as long as parents continue to teach Christian morals, values, and principles. Oddly enough the same morals, values, and principles that our founding fathers based the creation of our nation on – When that is gone, so goes the nation.

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams

20 posted on 01/13/2020 4:56:47 AM PST by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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