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Zelensky seeks justice after Iran apologizes for shooting down Ukrainian plane, killing 176 people
Kyiv Post ^ | 11JAN2019 | Brian Bonner

Posted on 01/11/2020 1:20:58 AM PST by AdmSmith

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, after Iran admitted shooting down a Ukrainian airline and killing all 176 people on board, called for assurances from Tehran “of readiness for a full and open investigation, bringing those responsible to justice, the return of the bodies of the dead, payment of compensation, official apologies through diplomatic channels.”
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A statement by the Iranian Armed Forces on Jan. 11:
3. In such critical and critical conditions, Flight PS752 of the Ukrainian airlines departs from Imam Khomeini Airport and, while in rotation, is completely approaching a sensitive military center of the Iran Revolutionary Guard Corps and at altitude and in form of a hostile flight. In these circumstances, the plane was accidentally hit by human error and, unfortunately, which unfortunately results in the martyrdom of dear compatriots and the death of a number of foreign nationals.

4. The Armed Forces staff, while expressing condolences and sympathy to the grieving families of other countries and the apologies for the human error, giving full assurance that the pursuit of fundamental reforms in the operational processes at the Armed Forces level can be repeated. Make such errors impossible and immediately report the culprit to the Armed Forces Judicial Organization in order to deal with any legal errors.
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Ukrainian lawyer and aviation expert Andriy Guck said that Ukraine shouldn’t accept Iran’s “unintentional attack” explanation and demand full admittance of guilt.

“The human error is the reason only for the missile to be fired but it is not the only reason for this disaster,” he said on Facebook. “The investigation must continue and look into such reasons as why Iran didn’t close its airspace, why this plane was allowed to take off from the airport, and how the sides of the conflict failed to guarantee the safety of the civilian flights. These are the duties of the state that they failed to perform, not just the mistakes of certain people.”

Guck cited the lawyers representing Ukraine in international courts against Russia in the case of Russian military shooting down the Malaysian Airlines MH17 flight over eastern Ukraine in July 2014, killing 283 people on board. The Ukrainian lawyers, he said, insist that when military shoot a missile intending to hit a military plane, but at the same time can’t unmistakably discern a civilian aircraft from a military one, such an attack is defined as intentional.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iff; iran; iranlies; iranmurderers; mullahloversonfr; ps752; putinsbuttboys; russia; transponder; ukraine
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To: radu

“Flat out lies by the Iranians, but who’s surprised?”

It just further proves the lies by the media and the libs that what Iran apologized for was human error, not an intentional attack based upon the act of Mr. Trump.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/pete-buttigieg-loses-his-cool-by-blaming-irans-downing-of-ukrainian-airliner-on-tit-for-tat

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/us-iran-news-01-11-2020-intl/index.html

https://www.businessinsider.com/iran-minister-zarif-blames-us-adventurism-for-ukraine-jet-downing-2020-1

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jackie-speier-ukraine-plane-crash-trump_n_5e184e99c5b6da971d13f559

https://www.foxnews.com/media/the-atlantic-david-frum-trump-ukrainian-airplane-iran

There’s a lot more. But as usual, the libs and their media are wrong on the point and it should be pointed out. But the publications will show a retraction on page 102 and the live people will blame their “non-existing” sources to cover their agenda.

rwood


61 posted on 01/11/2020 8:43:58 AM PST by Redwood71
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To: AdmSmith

I will add that I’m fully confident in President Trump to play this situation just right. He is both good hearted and supremely shrewd and will finesse it for maximum good effect.


62 posted on 01/11/2020 8:49:17 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Rashputin

Gaslight all you want. I watched it all unfold sitting at my desk. For several hours Russians like Girkin (from Moscow) gleeful admitted and took credit for the shoot down of MH17 when they thought it was a Ukrainian military transport. It was only after they realized they had just murdered nearly 100 kids did they change their story. You keep good company.


63 posted on 01/11/2020 8:50:09 AM PST by lodi90
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To: AdmSmith

Unfortunately, Special Unit of #Iran’s Islamic Regime Police opened fire at #AmirKabir university students who were protesting against #Iran’s Islamic Regime over shot-down of the #PS752 by #IRGC. Several protesters are wounded. Unconfirmed report about death of one!
https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1216037634860077057


64 posted on 01/11/2020 8:53:35 AM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: lodi90
Gaslight?

You watched it all from your desk?

Oh, on video like Brennan, Clapper, and Comey on video?

I understand you're paid, or inclined for personal reasons, or just plain stupid enough, to believe whatever the Barry Blowing Hillary crowd feed you, but you're not convincing anyone that the evidence the Dutch ignored because it didn't fit the predetermined verdict doesn't exist.

65 posted on 01/11/2020 9:04:24 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: AdmSmith
... Flight PS752 of the Ukrainian airlines departs from Imam Khomeini Airport and, while in rotation, is completely approaching a sensitive military center of the Iran Revolutionary Guard Corps and at altitude and in form of a hostile flight.

Oh Bull!!

Dozens of flights daily make the same takeoff pattern out of that airport!!

66 posted on 01/11/2020 9:16:57 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mosesdapoet

Till muslims renounce violence in the name of their Allah, they deserve no respect or understanding.... period!


67 posted on 01/11/2020 9:19:16 AM PST by existentially_kuffer
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To: AdmSmith
...can’t -- discern a civilian aircraft from a military one...

ALL commercial planes have transponders on them that IDENTIFY them!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identification_friend_or_foe

See Squawk Code

68 posted on 01/11/2020 9:21:22 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: AdmSmith
Whyn is ANYONE videoing planes in flight during the dark, pre-dawn hours?

Did they get some kind of advance notice it would happen?

And now video of the LAUNCH??

Stinkerineno!

69 posted on 01/11/2020 9:25:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 4Liberty

OUCH!


70 posted on 01/11/2020 9:25:51 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MAGAthon

I’ll bet THAT’s a hot match!


71 posted on 01/11/2020 9:26:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: AdmSmith

“and, while in rotation, is completely approaching a sensitive military center of the Iran Revolutionary Guard Corps and at altitude and in form of a hostile flight.”

but oddly enough with a flight path EXACTLY identical to thousands of other civilian flights taking off from that same runway every year ...


72 posted on 01/11/2020 9:35:45 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Elsie
"Dozens of flights daily make the same takeoff pattern out of that airport!!"

But they don't all have the right tail number.

Salami man who is popular with militant factions is killed, a bunch of the Revolutionary Guards are arrested, a civilian airliner leaving the country headed for Quid Pro Joe Land is "accidentally" shot down; sounds like a Persian purge to me.

JMHo

73 posted on 01/11/2020 10:40:59 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: existentially_kuffer

_kuffer wrote: Till muslims renounce violence in the name of their Allah, they deserve no respect or understanding.... period!

Amen Now Let US pray that misguided; immigration, Islam, and climate bridge builder Pope Francis gets a Colonel Boggie moment ( the lead character in the movie Bridge On The River Qwai played by Alex Guinness) and does a mea culpa and finally decides to question the results of what he’s done what and proclaimed and falls on the detonator which destroys the bridges he built) and resign


74 posted on 01/11/2020 11:27:56 AM PST by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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To: gandalftb; nuconvert
Info from a Russian who worked with the Tor-system:

When we trained with the system, we used a yellow marked area on the screen to mark the corridor for civilian aircrafts.
Everything there was ignored and we only looked at targets outside this area.

http://www.tanzpol.org/2020/01/t110037_3—katastrofa-boinga-737-pod-tegeranom.html#p8233549

75 posted on 01/11/2020 12:04:07 PM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: lodi90; Rashputin
No wonder that Rashputin has difficulties understanding what has happened when his compatriots are pushing things like this:

The United States wanted to destroy an Iranian government plane with those responsible for the attack on US military bases in Iraq, but they accidentally shot down a civilian airliner.

https://polit.info/482730-ssha-sbili-ukrainskii-samolet-prinyav-ego-za-pravitelstvennyi-bort-uvereny-v-irane

or this:

The former chief of the anti-aircraft missile forces of the Special Forces Command of the Russian Air Force, Sergey Khatylev, called the recognition by Iran that they shot down the Ukrainian Boeing the result of pressure from Western countries on Iran, as it is impossible to make such a mistake.

https://vz.ru/world/2020/1/11/176760.html

Sure, Russian technology is fail-safe https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-news/2016/16235/russian-air-carrier-admiral-kuznetsov-lost-second-/

76 posted on 01/11/2020 12:20:16 PM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: BobL

They are only flying at 250 mph or so. P-51’s in WW2 would be traveling faster.


77 posted on 01/11/2020 1:34:35 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: AdmSmith

Protests against Iran leader going on now.

Not reported anywhere on TV except Fox News.

Found this article:

https://latest-today-news.com/2020/01/11/protests-erupt-in-iran-over-planes-downing-that-killed-176/

Protests erupt in Iran over plane’s downing that killed 176

Short article, here is an excerpt:

“A group of Iranian protesters demanded that the country’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei step down...”

Going on right now, Trump tweeted about it.


78 posted on 01/11/2020 2:24:01 PM PST by Syncro (Facts is Facts)
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To: AdmSmith
What kind of idiot would visit Iran 🇮🇷?
79 posted on 01/11/2020 2:35:56 PM PST by Truthoverpower (The guv mint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: Syncro

Thanks, you have more here https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3807314/posts?page=60#60


80 posted on 01/11/2020 3:18:53 PM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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