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How the Pentagon Was Duped by Contractors Using Shell Companies (to get set-asides for disabled vets and minorities)
Bloomberg | January 4, 2020 | David Voreacos and Neil Weinberg

Posted on 01/05/2020 5:47:45 AM PST by karpov

No excerpt from Bloomberg allowed, story here. A free article is Contractors Use Shell Games to Hide Owners, Cheat Taxpayers. The GAO report is Ongoing DOD Fraud Risk Assessment Efforts Should Include Contractor Ownership.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: contractors; crime; defense; fraud; pentagon
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1 posted on 01/05/2020 5:47:45 AM PST by karpov
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To: karpov

Really “Duped”, c’mon.

Duped ??? or willfully playing along with the game.

Payoff at the end of 20 years.


2 posted on 01/05/2020 5:50:35 AM PST by ptsal
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To: karpov

I use to work for an engineering firm. The principals used their wives to form a shell company... made wives owners, installed wives as CEO, directors, and upper management. Bid on contracts, won contracts, then secunded workforce from regular company.


3 posted on 01/05/2020 5:56:09 AM PST by Drango (1776 = 2020)
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To: Drango

It’s not new at all. The game has been played for a long time. And not just the DoD but all companies dealing with government contracts.


4 posted on 01/05/2020 6:00:08 AM PST by boycott
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To: ptsal

Exactly.


5 posted on 01/05/2020 6:02:24 AM PST by Tax-chick (Make yourself useful. And don't die!)
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To: karpov

Meritocracies don’t have these problems.

Governments where cronyism is strong do.


6 posted on 01/05/2020 6:05:34 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: karpov

The downside is being forced to team with an 8A company that merely meets the proper checkboxes, but really does nothing but piggyback and suck up contract dollars.


7 posted on 01/05/2020 6:09:07 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I was interviewed for a government job-fed. A panel interviewed. The black guys job was to open the door when the interview was over.


8 posted on 01/05/2020 6:09:08 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: karpov

This has been going on for 40 years. Set you wife up at 51% owner of YOUR business and magically, it’s a “Woman-owned Business!” It’s amazing.


9 posted on 01/05/2020 6:10:37 AM PST by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: Drango

My friend has a Heating/Air company and when he started it he had his wife be the “owner” of the company so he can bid on government contracts

It allows you to check the “woman owned company” box on submissions

It is sad but that is how the world works.


10 posted on 01/05/2020 6:20:28 AM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: karpov

Too many contracting officers are lazy, satisfied to just go through the motions to award and provide oversight of the contract. Every new contract requires a kick off meeting. Contracting officers frequently do that at their location, rather than at the contractor location. Then, they never make visits to the company location to check on quality and compliance with the contract. A short notice visit to the company will easily uncover much of this. I’ve only known a few contracting officers who have done this.


11 posted on 01/05/2020 6:21:11 AM PST by centurion316 (.)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

“””””My friend has a Heating/Air company and when he started it he had his wife be the “owner” of the company so he can bid on government contracts

It allows you to check the “woman owned company” box on submissions”””””””””””

It used to work that way.

I’ve been working on government construction projects for 40 years. Even though my wife technically owns 60% of the stock we cannot be a Woman Owned Business because she has her own job. The requirements are more stringent now, as it should be.

The ticket these days is to be an approved minority business. At some point I expect to see a lawsuit from a white guy like me identifying as a crippled black woman in order to be a minority business. Some people laugh when I say that but I believe it has real merit. If you can identify as anything these days then why not identify as a minority contractor?


12 posted on 01/05/2020 6:31:21 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: Trump.Deplorable; boycott

Many, many times LARGER engineering firms would hire or sub out to, this shell, women owned company, to meet their own AA or 8A goals. For example if Jacobs wanted a $100 million airport expansion, they would need X% minority subs to get the contract.


13 posted on 01/05/2020 6:38:21 AM PST by Drango (1776 = 2020)
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To: karpov

Yo, David, Neil, The Pentagon is an inanimate object and is therefore incapable of being duped. Do some homework and get back to us with the name of the person at The Penty who got “duped”. I think you’ll find that he or she wasn’t duped at all but was part of the subterfuge.


14 posted on 01/05/2020 6:46:59 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: shelterguy

He mostly bids on NJ State jobs and it does helps

His wife does the book keeping and doesn’t have another job outside the home.


15 posted on 01/05/2020 6:53:06 AM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: Drango

That may work from the government client’s side, but in many states that type of arrangement would run afoul of the professional licensing board regulations. In my state, a person who is not a licensed engineer cannot own an engineering firm. Same goes for lawyers, CPAs, etc.


16 posted on 01/05/2020 7:13:26 AM PST by Alberta's Child (In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.)
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To: Drango

Sounds like members of congress,you never see a poor democrat there.


17 posted on 01/05/2020 7:22:29 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: shelterguy
In the early 90’s I was a vendor to many state governments, especially Texas and Arkansas. Our company grew from being a Small Asian company to a large Asian company.

Suddenly here come a young man in Austin that sets himself up as a Women Black company, and gets a contract from D*ll to supply equipment to the state. He pulls almost all D*ll business in Texas from other vendors, so state purchasing can check off those two desirable boxes in their purchasing systems.

Turns out that he is *somebody’s* kid, that rents an office near our Austin office. One of our guys walks over ... nobody there, just a fax machine printing away visible through the glass door.

This game has been rigged in Texas for decades, and on the coasts for much longer. Only now it can be made “legal”.

And let's just say that Little Rock AR and Chicago IL shared a lot of similarities in state purchasing back then.

18 posted on 01/05/2020 7:24:09 AM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

ding ding ding.....we have a winnah!


19 posted on 01/05/2020 7:24:54 AM PST by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: Alberta's Child

No idea how it worked as I wasn’t involved. But it DID work. I just rolled my eyes from afar.


20 posted on 01/05/2020 7:27:21 AM PST by Drango (1776 = 2020)
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