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1 posted on 01/02/2020 7:27:21 AM PST by Kaslin
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As a practical matter I don’t see how the Right re-establishes any significant influence in these places.


2 posted on 01/02/2020 7:34:00 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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Nope...not until the big cities get tbeir collective minds right.


3 posted on 01/02/2020 7:34:07 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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Conservatives should respect urban homes and seek policies that will assist residents in forming and maintaining stable families and communities.

WARNING!!!! I just read a full pant-load of crap. Save your time.

4 posted on 01/02/2020 7:34:34 AM PST by JonPreston
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It’s a safety issue. Will you stay where you and your family are in danger from ferals?


5 posted on 01/02/2020 7:34:35 AM PST by dynachrome (Build the wall, deport them all. And send her back!)
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If you want the cities to look like they did in the 1950s, you will need .gov to have the same role it had in the 1950s.

Life is simple when you know the rules.


6 posted on 01/02/2020 7:34:36 AM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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There are, of course, many examples of urban dysfunction, but conservatives should critique them specifically, rather than dismissing entire cities, or cities entirely. We should not ignore policy failures and the pathologies of the leftist urban elite, but we should criticize them because we wish to see our cities and their residents flourish.


7 posted on 01/02/2020 7:34:37 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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I am understand the need to fix the cities... but when the denizens thereof won’t elect you under any circumstances, what is the next step?

If you are trying to save a drowning man and he won’t do as you direct him to, you have to let him drown, else there are two dead instead of one. Same goes for the cities.

Einstein’s maxim comes into play as well


8 posted on 01/02/2020 7:35:01 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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Too late.

A huge problem in many major cities is that the city government becomes an end unto itself. City workers often are the largest group of middle class voters, so politicians must pander to them to gain their support for campaigns and elections. Once government exists primarily to serve itself, you're screwed.

All the problems described by the author pale in comparison to the over-promising of pensions, and the long-term insolvency of many of those cities. It is politically impossible to engage in pension reform, so services will get worse even while taxes increase, just to pay for the pensions and not anger city employees.

It's a mess Democrats created, and they're going to have to be the ones to fix it.

9 posted on 01/02/2020 7:35:35 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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Conservatives have great issues that can actually HELP people. We can’t blame urbanites for voting wrong if we run away and don’t persistently raise our issues in terms that the voters can understand.


11 posted on 01/02/2020 7:36:36 AM PST by Socon-Econ (adical Islam,)
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13 posted on 01/02/2020 7:38:26 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Not a role of federal government.


14 posted on 01/02/2020 7:40:25 AM PST by pas
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I would guess that the bulk of he Right live in suburbs, or outskirts of the cities rather than in the heart of cities anyhow?


18 posted on 01/02/2020 7:47:41 AM PST by Leep (Many shall be deceived ( by liberals ))
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It will lead to civil war which the cities will lose, but the cost will be horrific.


19 posted on 01/02/2020 7:48:19 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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“Conservatives should respect urban homes and seek policies that will assist residents in forming and maintaining stable families and communities.”

Idiot! Why should we do it when the Rats fail to do it.


20 posted on 01/02/2020 7:49:40 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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dems have turned our cities into $hitholes. They promote welfare, crime and laziness. dems want it that way. They cry their tales of woe and get money from the state and the fed. The money is used to pay off democrat voters and does not help the cities at all.

The people who work have gone to the suburbs, and they are being made to pay to support the cities through taxes. Bad enough, but the dems demonize the people in the suburbs who are working and having their earnings taken and sent to the $hitholes, and call them racist and supremacist.


21 posted on 01/02/2020 7:49:42 AM PST by I want the USA back (If free speech is taken away, dumb and silent we are led, like sheep to the slaughter: G Washington)
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(Warning: did not read much of article)

Agreed, cities aren’t all bad just of themselves. It’s liberals and certain cultures that are bad. Believe me, they ruin small places as much as big cities.

I have a certain love for Baltimore. It is not just 15 min from me but it is my mother’s hometown. She loved it so and it was a wonderful place when she grew up and lived there, both in tiny row homes and a wonderfully big Victorian.

Oh, and she and her family were as conservative as anyone. Even when barely employed through the ‘30s my grandparents were anti-Dem.

Then the rotten culture was allowed to take over, starting with the Riots of ‘68.


23 posted on 01/02/2020 7:51:40 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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I know there are exceptions, but the sad fact is that people who live in the cities want to be dependent on government. There are degrees to this, of course, but if they wanted an independent life, they'd move.

The Dems pander to, manipulate, enable and insure this dependence, thus guaranteeing the votes of the populace.

Repubs don't do so much pandering. Heck, sometimes I wonder if they're even on our side, but those of us who don't want the dependent life also don't have much use for politicians - we get the pubbies by default and they're not nearly as bad as 'rats would be.

I'd be fine with all of the above if we had a way to limit the influence of cities to their geographic area, or if they were content to keep their governance to themselves. The fact is, the cities and the politicians therein aren't content with limiting power to the cities and their citizens. They want to rule the rural areas around them and that's where most of our conflicts lie. I would argue they not only want to rule the rest of us, they demand deference to their enlightenment. That is never going to end well.

If they'd just stick to the cesspools they created, most of us in the in-between wouldn't give them a second thought.
24 posted on 01/02/2020 7:52:14 AM PST by chrisser
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I agree with the article. We don't need to pull a Romney and write off huge sections of the citizenship. Instead we need to educate on:
26 posted on 01/02/2020 7:56:28 AM PST by DannyTN
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> I even put ketchup on hot dogs

Damned communist. ;-)


29 posted on 01/02/2020 8:06:08 AM PST by glorgau
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Hong Kong. A city conservatives can love. Just sayin.


40 posted on 01/02/2020 8:39:31 AM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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