Posted on 12/30/2019 8:15:40 PM PST by bitt
The truth behind House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff’s role in engineering President Trump’s impeachment may soon come out. Judicial Watch, a nonprofit group promoting government transparency, is suing to get the whistleblower’s e-mails.
That’s good news. Because no matter what comes of Trump’s Senate trial, Schiff should be held accountable for his devious methods.
The public also needs the truth about the so-called whistleblower. Real whistleblowers deserve to be treated like heroes. But Eric Ciaramella — the man Judicial Watch and many media accounts have identified as the whistleblower and who doesn’t deny it — is no hero.
To dignify Ciaramella with the term “whistleblower” misrepresents what he did. Sure, he filed what is technically called a whistleblower complaint. But he had no firsthand knowledge of Trump’s controversial July 25 phone call or motivations. Every allegation in the complaint begins with “I learned from multiple US officials,” or “multiple officials told me,” or “officials with direct knowledge informed me.” Just gossip. He never names any sources. Ciaramella acted as the anti-Trumpers’ front man. As for courage, not an ounce: He is cowering from public view.
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If Republicans re-take the House, every scrap of paper schiff’s committee manufactured for the impeachment, and every email he, AND his staffers sent and received, should be released for public scrutiny. #Transparency
The document contained nothing but “second-hand or unsubstantiated assertions” that regulations say are insufficient for a complaint to be acted on. Accounts of wrongdoing from co-workers don’t qualify. Atkinson’s Sept. 30 statement defending his decision to deem the complaint “credible” amounts to: “I did it, because I did it.” He never gave a reason.
Atkinson’s Oct. 4 closed-door testimony to the House Intelligence Committee undoubtedly offers answers, but Schiff refuses to let even House members see it. The transcripts of all 18 other witnesses have been released, but not Atkinson’s. It’s a stunning omission.
It is a stunning omission, and a stunning admission equivalent to: "I did it, because I did it”! WOW! No justification except arrogance! More dancing puppets. . .
Come on. Everyone knew Clinton’s whistleblower.
What’s Schiff got to hide, a cigar ?
ID’ing the whistleblower is only step one. Then you have to find the leakers who leaked the flawed info to him (Trump pressed the Ukrainian 7 times in the call?). Then you drill into them for their connections.
If a whistle blower has complete protection from retaliation, then why does he/she need to be kept secret? No one si allowed to harm them.
Or could it be that if a person went into a room to talk to this whistle blower, he’s be the only person in the room?
rwood
I’ve been surprised that no one leaks Lindsay Graham’s lover or a former lover talks with National Enquirer.
"The letters he (ICIG Michael Atkinson) sent to Schiff and Nunes were sent because the whistleblower complaint had not been transmitted to Congress."
I see you finally admit, after repeatedly denying it, that ICIG Atkinson did indeed send the complaint to the Chairmen of both the House and Senate Intelligence Oversight Committees. I’m amazed. You were so insistent that he had not. Now you agree he did, and the reason he did is, as I’d been telling you was his superiors had determined he had no jurisdiction to do so. He complained they did it for politics, to protect President Trump.
Do you recall me telling you that the meta data evidence on his letter transmitting Eric Ciamarella’s complaint to the Congressional Intelligence Committees was dated on August 12, 2019, the same day he received the whistleblower’s spy’s complaints hearsay allegations, and also two calendar weeks before he even submitted his findings that Eric Ciamarella was a liar credible, to the DNI, for his determination of whether the issue was appropriate to submit to Congress oversight or not. Yet, as I told you, and as the meta data clearly proves, Atkinson had already written his letter of transmission to the Congressional Intelligence Committees before he did one lick of investigative effort to check Eric Ciamarella’s credibility, or could possibly know the DNI’s Congressional referral decision!
Now, do you ALSO recall me telling you that it was determined by multiple career legal counsels (three to be exact) that it was, first: NOT an urgent Intelligence Community matter, and was secondly:, not at all under the ICIG’s or DNI’s Jurisdiction because the person being reported was not a member of the Intelligence Community, and thirdly: the person is a member of a class of persons who are statutorily excluded from being under ICIG’s jurisdiction, and fourthly, the matter being reported was one of political policy, which was also statutorily excluded from the ICIG’s Jurisdiction, and fifthly, due to all of the fore-going legal determinations, it thus was not an urgent Intelligence Community concern required to be reported to Congress, and, in fact, by statute and several Constitutional reasons, prohibited from such disclosure? But, of course, you likely don’t recall that.
Do you perhaps ALSO recall me informing you these three career legal counsels, one for the ICIG’s office, another in the office of the Director of National Security, and the third at the Department of Justice, all stated that Legally, and Constitutionally, that what was raised in the allegations were a matter of Executive Privilege, which are not matters ever subject to Congressional oversight.
Further, being a discussion between two Heads of State, it is a matter of Foreign Policy within the President’s Constitutional Foreign Policy domain and therefore, also not an area over which the Intelligence Community Inspector General, or even the DNI, or DOJ have any jurisdiction. Ergo, it is not in their authority to report anything to Congress on the President’s Diplomatic conversations! The President must have free rein to have i]open conversation about any topic that comes up, regardless what other officials may be listening in, without fear they may "report" what’s said to Congress. This has been held inviolate for over two centuries for privileged conversations at the Executive level. To break it requires SCOTUS intervention, and evidence of egregious misconduct.
Just because something was not reported by the ICIG’s superiors, especially when he has been told the legal and Constitutionally valid reasons why it cannot be, non-reporting to Congress does not give ICIG Atkinson any authority to break the very law that created his office, which is what he did! Read the damn law.
In your response, try to use Eric Ciamarella’s given name, not WB, or Whistleblower. I know you prefer not to reveal in context who and what he is, but just try. OK?
He is not a whistleblower. He is a leaker of classified information and is a traitor worthy of death.
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Yes, and on the other hand, Eric Ciaramella is a cowardly functionary for the LEFT. He seems but a fetid, noxious stain who may dissipate over time.
Some day in the near future Eric and his pencil-necked Hollywood creator, "SLEAZY SCREENWRITER SHIFFTY SCHIFF", will be exposed, and the 2020 Presidential Election will bring joy to all MAGA hat wearing thugs in frozen wintry Chicago ... chasing after diminutive gay males of color/pink punks/sissy boy fags.
..... bring some rope and some bleach.
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(btw) --- and more importantly:
Tom Fitton (of Judicial Watch) is one of the YUGE heroes of our nation, FReepers!
ANY MONITARY HELP THAT ANY OR ALL OF US COULD OR WOULD DIRECT TO JUDICIAL WATCH MAY HELP RID ALL OF US OF THIS DECADES-LONG CRIPPLING EFFORT OF THE ANTI-AMERICA DEEP STATE.
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We haven't much time to wise up the voters. We even have LESS TIME to "educate" our younger voters.
Please turn yourselves to the efforts of Brad Parscale. He is a key to a Trump win in 2020.
Love the America in which you wish to live? Then please work a little for it.
HAPPY NEW YEAR .... AND HAPPY NOVEMBER 3, 2020.
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The simple reason that Schiff doesn’t want anyone talking to the supposed “whistleblower” is that Schiff is a LYING SKUNK, who deserves to be removed from the HoR & banned from seeking any future office.
Personally, I think that the DIMocRATS Party should have to repay ALL of the taxpayer’s money that they have wasted on this WITCH HUNT & FISHING EXPEDITION.
Yours, TMN78247
Whether he dissipates depends on how useful he is in his memoir. He will of course gladly take the 7 figure book advance and invent more lies about Trump. His status will depend on how those lies can be weaponized in 2020, and I'm not sure how much value he will have as a weepy victim, or a courageous hero defending Brennan and Clapper and the Deep State Way.
In short, he could range from somewhat useful to toxic.
Do you think the whistleblower is a real person? How do we know he/she is not a Democrat committee? [seriously]. The Democrats will [and have] made up stories to promote their silly theories, why not this one?
In short, he could range from somewhat useful to toxic.
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Well said.
And may you and yours have a pleasant and healthy New Year.
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OOPS-—Impeachment has Dems losing votes faster they can manufacture them.
Impeachment promoter Nadler said: “We cannot rely on an election to solve our problems.”
Sounds like something Idi Amin said.
Sounds like something Hitler said.
Yikes.......
Hitler cynically used the election process to achieve power, once he got his foot in the door, by being named Chancellor, he engineered the coup behind the scenes.
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