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Russia deploys Avangard hypersonic missile system
BBC ^ | 12/27/19 | Staff Writer

Posted on 12/27/2019 4:19:14 PM PST by BlackAdderess

Russia's first regiment of Avangard hypersonic missiles has been put into service, the defence ministry says.

The location was not given, although officials had earlier indicated they would be deployed in the Urals.

President Vladimir Putin has said the nuclear-capable missiles can travel more than 20 times the speed of sound and put Russia ahead of other nations.

They have a "glide system" that affords great manoeuvrability and could make them impossible to defend against.

Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu confirmed the "Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle entered service at 10:00 Moscow time on 27 December", calling it a "landmark event".

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: missiles; supersonic
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Trump was right. They were cheating, and now we have to play catch up.
1 posted on 12/27/2019 4:19:14 PM PST by BlackAdderess
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To: BlackAdderess

Russia wasn’t ‘cheating’. We weren’t even showing up for the game, until now.


2 posted on 12/27/2019 4:25:10 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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Traveling at twenty times the speed of sound. it must have one helluva tracking / direction system. Color me skeptical.


3 posted on 12/27/2019 4:25:21 PM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: BlackAdderess

Yes, they have been cheating. This is also why his Space Force idea makes sense.


4 posted on 12/27/2019 4:26:33 PM PST by newzjunkey (Vote Giant Meteor in 2020)
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They have a "glide system" that affords great manoeuvrability and could make them impossible to defend against.

As Mike Tyson would say. Everybody's got a plan until I hit them once.

5 posted on 12/27/2019 4:27:36 PM PST by Digger
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“Color me skeptical.”

The US Navy has kept to older, slower missiles. The slow ones are more likely to arrive on target without being detected because they can fly lower. They will also reliably hit the target. I agree with your assessment on what Russian missiles can hit.


6 posted on 12/27/2019 4:28:44 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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All they need is GPS/GLONASS. I’m not certain that Mach 20 is what they’ve achieved or if it’s a bad translation/transcription by mediatards, but Mach 10 is more than reasonably achievable.

Fun fact: Most Western missile defense systems can not cope with a hypersonic sea or surface skimmer.


7 posted on 12/27/2019 4:29:32 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: BlackAdderess

bkmk


8 posted on 12/27/2019 4:33:14 PM PST by sauropod (Hold onto that impeachment for a while. It'll get better with age, just like Jennifer Rubin has.)
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Someone on Fox today recouted all our nulcear submarines and land based nuclear weapons which we have. Bring it on b*tch.

"Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops! Uh, depending on the breaks." — General "Buck" Turgidson

9 posted on 12/27/2019 4:33:56 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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To: BlackAdderess

It’s BS. The Russians can’t keep a ship afloat.


10 posted on 12/27/2019 4:42:26 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (When you think about what the left is doing to America, think no further than Cloward-Piven)
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Probably powered by Stolichnaya vodka.


11 posted on 12/27/2019 4:54:14 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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Mach 20 is really fast.
The fastest thing I’ve ever worked on was a surface to air missile that would do Mach 10. At mach 10 the steel guidance surfaces (fins) would heat up from air friction and melt off before it got to its target. We fixed it with a leading edge ablation material that would turn to a gas and protect the rest of the fin. Mach 20 is a whole new set of problems.


12 posted on 12/27/2019 4:56:15 PM PST by BuffaloJack ("Security does not exist in nature. Everything has risk." Henry Savage)
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The ruskees know aerodynamics. They also know how to steal computer items. I suspect they are not blowing smoke.


13 posted on 12/27/2019 5:01:07 PM PST by RobyOnekanobee
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To: BlackAdderess

Take this with very large grains of salt folks. The Russians have been making claims like this for many many decades. It wasn’t long ago they were bragging about nuclear powered weapons.
And, after several months of hype with no proof whatsoever they had actually accomplished this the program was quietly scrapped if it ever actually existed at all.


14 posted on 12/27/2019 5:06:23 PM PST by ocrp1982 (ll)
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“Color me skeptical.”

20 times the speed of sound in the atmosphere? I thought only UFOs could do that.


15 posted on 12/27/2019 5:13:39 PM PST by dljordan
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Agree. Maneuverability at high speed tends to take a severe toll on accuracy. If the target is hard that toll may mean a weapon expended to little or no advantage.


16 posted on 12/27/2019 5:16:13 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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Most Western missile defense systems can not cope with a hypersonic sea or surface skimmer.
17 posted on 12/27/2019 5:21:16 PM PST by ETCM
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Color me skeptical.

My entire adult life, the Russians have exaggerated and overstated the capabilities of their weapons, while we have under stated ours.

18 posted on 12/27/2019 5:25:26 PM PST by ETCM
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Probably powered by Stolichnaya vodka.

I was wondering what fuel this thing would use.

19 posted on 12/27/2019 5:32:19 PM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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Take this with very large grains of salt folks.

Just a few weeks ago their one and only carrier caught fire while in dry dock. The same carrier that a couple of years ago had to turn back not even halfway to the Med for a planned cruise.

I doubt they can even put twenty ships to sea at one time. And a Mach 20 missile? Wouldn't that be a quantum leap in material / propulsion / guidance? I mean, stranger things have happened, but again, I'm skeptical.

20 posted on 12/27/2019 5:36:40 PM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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