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One emerging dodge seems to be that President Trump isn’t formally impeached until the articles are transmitted to the Senate. This is absurd.

I know it isn't a popular sentiment around here, but in this case the WSJ is correct.

It is a political fool's errand to keep asserting that Trump isn't "really impeached" because Nancy, Soros, Schiff, and the Globalist Lawfare criminals have devised this strategy to hold the Senate and the nation hostage. In fact, their Satanic strategy is brilliant. It denies the Senate the power it has under the Constitution to hold the trial....indefinitely.

That is because the Republicans are playing the game of the Democrats and the media. The truth is, the Constitution does not say the articles of impeachment have to be "transferred" to the Senate.

All the Constitution says about impeachment is this:

Article 1, Section 2, Clause 5

The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

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Article 1, Section 3, Clauses 6 and 7

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried the Chief Justice shall preside; And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present. Judgement in Cases of Impreachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgement and Punishment, according to Law.

I have posted this before, and I know it is a loooong shot, but perhaps the only recourse is for the White House and the Senate to appeal to the Supreme Court to dismiss the articles of impeachment, already passed by the House, as not withstanding Constitutional muster. There was no "high crime, treason, or bribery" by the President. Not one iota.

9 posted on 12/24/2019 3:51:09 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot
"I have posted this before, and I know it is a loooong shot, but perhaps the only recourse is for the White House and the Senate to appeal to the Supreme Court to dismiss the articles of impeachment, already passed by the House, as not withstanding Constitutional muster. There was no "high crime, treason, or bribery" by the President. Not one iota."

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Have you full trust in Mr. Roberts?

10 posted on 12/24/2019 4:09:56 AM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: SkyPilot
... but perhaps the only recourse is for the White House and the Senate to appeal to the Supreme Court to dismiss the articles of impeachment...

There is no appellate path to take to the Supreme Court and one isn't needed. All Cocaine Mitch has to do once he has received the Articles of Impeachment from Nancy is to introduce a motion to dismiss the Articles in the Senate. If he gets 51 votes in favor, the Articles are dismissed, there is no Senate trial and we can all go our collective merry way! Nancy Pelosi knows this, which is why she hasn't transmitted the Articles yet. She's attempting to apply leverage she simply does not have in a pathetic attempt to configure the events to her desired outcome.

Furthermore, the idea that the President hasn't been impeached yet is valid and here is what it's based on:

A Grand Jury can vote to return an indictment against an individual. Once they do that, their work is done. They can close up shop and go home. But that individual is not yet indicted and won't be until the court clerk of the trial venue enters the voted-upon indictment onto the court docket. THEN the individual is indicted, not before. So the thought is that as long as she refuses to walk the Articles to the other side of the building, Donald Trump is unimpeached and will remain so until they are entered as received into the Senate record and a trial date is established. Once that happens, he's impeached. So as of Tuesday, Dec 24 at 0700, Donald J. Trump can claim he's not been impeached and be right.

20 posted on 12/24/2019 5:00:56 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: SkyPilot

The Senate can dismiss, on the grounds that no crime has been committed. (I admit I haven’t read Schiff’s 600+ page “report”, but I suspect it has no proof of crimes).


25 posted on 12/24/2019 5:12:29 AM PST by sauropod (Hold onto that impeachment for a while. It'll get better with age, just like Jennifer Rubin has.)
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To: SkyPilot

“I have posted this before, and I know it is a loooong shot, but perhaps the only recourse is for the White House and the Senate to appeal to the Supreme Court to dismiss the articles of impeachment, already passed by the House, as not withstanding Constitutional muster.”

The supreme court has no jurisdiction over impeachment. None at all. That is what “The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments” means.


30 posted on 12/24/2019 6:45:42 AM PST by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: SkyPilot

“The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments.”

They have the sole power to try. This does not mean they MUST try.

Especially with such bogus Articles. Especially when the House has failed to present the Articles.

It would be almost unconstitutional for the Senate to hold hearings or even vote to dismiss the Articles.

The only option of the Senate is to carry on with normal business and proceed as if impeachment has never occurred.

If at some future date - Nancy has Managers show up:

1. Refuse the Managers and the Articles. Return them prorsus rejecerunt.


39 posted on 12/24/2019 7:50:54 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (2/3 of all impeached presidents were impeached because they pissed off Hillary)
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