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Germany's Cabinet approves ban on gay, transgender 'conversion therapy'
Deutsche Welle ^ | 12.18.2019 | kmm/sms (AFP/dpa/KNA)

Posted on 12/19/2019 2:55:19 AM PST by Olog-hai

Germany moved one step closer to banning “conversion therapy” targeting transgender and gay people after its Cabinet approved a draft bill on Wednesday morning.

The bill will next be presented to Germany’s lower house, Health Minister Jens Spahn told the Redaktionsnetzwerk Deutschland news group (RND).

If the bill passes both houses of parliament, advertising or offering conversion therapy will be banned and infringements will carry fines of up to €30,000 ($33,000).

After the proposed ban, only adults who freely seek out the controversial “therapy” will be legally permitted to undergo it.

It is estimated that up to 2,000 conversion therapies take place in Germany every year, with Spahn saying that was “2,000 too many.”

“Homosexuality is not an illness, therefore the word ‘therapy’ is already misleading,” said Spahn. “This so-called therapy makes people sick instead of well.” …

(Excerpt) Read more at dw.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Germany; Government
KEYWORDS: conversiontherapy; eussr; fourthreich; gaystapo; homofascism; homosexualagenda; jensspahn; lavendermafia; pinkswastika; spahn

1 posted on 12/19/2019 2:55:19 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
"Homosexuality is not an illness"

Wrong.

2 posted on 12/19/2019 3:00:36 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Dear Mr. Kotter, #Epsteindidntkillhimself - Signed, Epstein's Mother)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Jens Spahn is himself a homosexual. He certainly is the poster boy for the agenda thereof, given his position of power.


3 posted on 12/19/2019 3:03:21 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai
This law stops the advertising and/or offering of conversion therapy ONLY.

It does not, nor can it stop the actual practice of conversion therapy because the practice of it will now blend into normal private psychotherapy which, for the most part, remains beyond the reach of the law due to privacy restrictions on doctor/patient conversations.

This reminds me of the laws (or was it only bar association restrictions) in our past that prevented lawyers from advertising or publicly offering services.

4 posted on 12/19/2019 3:07:40 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Trump to Pelosi: By proceeding with impeachment...you are declaring open war on American Democracy)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Wrong.

Right (that is, you are).

These neo-Marxists can change the language to control the people, but they cannot change the reality the original language conveyed.

Homosexuality is an illness. And the perverts among us can pretend it is not but they still cannot change the truth.

5 posted on 12/19/2019 3:11:40 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Trump to Pelosi: By proceeding with impeachment...you are declaring open war on American Democracy)
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To: Olog-hai

The Nazis are rising up in Germany again.


6 posted on 12/19/2019 3:16:48 AM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: RoosterRedux
The bill passed by the Cabinet was amended to include banning the practice for 16- to 18-year-olds. […]

A previous draft of the bill would have allowed the practice on 16- to 18-year-olds if the practitioner could prove the patient understood its implications and risks.

Under the bill, parents or caregivers would also be punished for making a 16- to 18-year-old undergo the therapy, which often uses conditioning techniques considered psychologically abusive by medical professionals. …
So physical abuse on teenagers is somehow less abusive than “psychological abuse” claimed by “medical professionals” when it’s directed towards getting rid of impulses historically considered an abomination.
7 posted on 12/19/2019 3:19:33 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai
"Homosexuality is not an illness"

Wrong. It's a mental aberration, no matter how the degraded left spins it.

I pity those afflicted with it, though not enough to pretend they're normal human beings. They aren't, and cultures throughout history have recognized it.

8 posted on 12/19/2019 3:21:02 AM PST by Windflier (Torches and pitchforks ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: \/\/ayne

This is their “pink swastika” wing showing its ugly face again.


9 posted on 12/19/2019 3:22:00 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

This is akin to having distillers, breweries, and drug dealers forcing a change in the law that prevents parents from sending their kids to rehab.


10 posted on 12/19/2019 3:26:07 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Trump to Pelosi: By proceeding with impeachment...you are declaring open war on American Democracy)
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To: RoosterRedux

Good analogy, particularly with respect to psychological addiction.


11 posted on 12/19/2019 3:33:30 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Windflier
I remember somewhere either reading or hearing an exorcist who was speaking of things that constitute gateways to the demonic. He mentioned that homosexuality/perversion/pornography was a gateway.

In that vein, I have a friend whose daughter is a lesbian who, along with her partner, thought their house was haunted. I didn't mention the gateway theory because she was sensitive about the subject, but I feel remiss in not doing so. The things she described happening at their house sounded demonic.

12 posted on 12/19/2019 3:34:10 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Trump to Pelosi: By proceeding with impeachment...you are declaring open war on American Democracy)
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To: Olog-hai
As someone who stopped using alcohol and drugs (even prescription opiates) a long time ago, I would venture that there is a major psychological component to all addiction.

Though I wasn't an alcoholic when I quit drinking (I did however drink too much), I was shocked by just how pervasive alcohol was. It hit me that our entire society is permeated by alcohol and its advertising. I wondered if life without alcohol even existed or was worth living.

It took a while for alcohol to recede from my thinking.

In fact, it is so far gone from my thinking at this point that I noticed while walking through the beer and wine aisle at Walmart the other day that I couldn't even remember what being high felt like.

13 posted on 12/19/2019 3:45:06 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Trump to Pelosi: By proceeding with impeachment...you are declaring open war on American Democracy)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

Very wrong indeed.

But unfortunately it doesn’t seem like current “conversion” therapy has any efficacy whatsoever. It’s a shame mainstream medicine up and decided it was “normal”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUtYKrYDxlU


14 posted on 12/19/2019 3:53:22 AM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: Olog-hai

IOW, parents who brainwash their kids into thinking they’re gay is perfectly legal but when the kids wise up, it’s illegal to convert back to their true gender.


15 posted on 12/19/2019 6:43:03 AM PST by bgill
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To: Olog-hai

The self-hating Germans and the Brits are in full de-genderization mode — the road to cultural, political, and, yes, racial extinction.


16 posted on 12/19/2019 7:01:25 AM PST by Socon-Econ (adical Islam,)
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To: Olog-hai

Misleading headline.

From the article: “After the proposed ban, only adults who freely seek out the controversial “therapy” will be legally permitted to undergo it.’

So they are not banning it entirely just for minors.


17 posted on 12/19/2019 12:05:57 PM PST by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Not quite. Homosexuals aren’t profiting financially from stopping conversion therapy. They may not like the idea of it but it doesn’t affect their livelihoods one way or another.


18 posted on 12/19/2019 12:07:15 PM PST by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: Impy; BillyBoy; LS; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; campaignPete R-CT; AuH2ORepublican; Clemenza; SunkenCiv; ..

It’s typical of the leftist agenda of being anti-science, because it doesn’t fit their narrative. No sound science data exists that proves homosexuality is “normal” (let alone other disturbing pathologies such as transsexuality).


19 posted on 12/19/2019 5:52:34 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Dear Mr. Kotter, #Epsteindidntkillhimself - Signed, Epstein's Mother)
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