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Is a trap being set for Trump in the Senate trial?
thehill.com ^ | 12/14/19 | Douglas MacKinnon

Posted on 12/14/2019 10:15:32 AM PST by a little elbow grease

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To: a little elbow grease

>>Over the past week, I have heard from three seasoned Republicans who fear that President Trump and the West Wing are seriously underestimating the potential danger of a Senate trial.<<

I believe there are many who are seriously underestimating the danger of removing our President from office.


41 posted on 12/14/2019 10:37:39 AM PST by Tejas Rob
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To: a little elbow grease

If you can’t “resist the temptation to reverse the election” you deserve the consequences and so does a citizenry that would allow it.


42 posted on 12/14/2019 10:37:41 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Savage Beast

I agree. A senate trial only legitimizes this travesty.


43 posted on 12/14/2019 10:38:45 AM PST by jersey117
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Exposing Bidens family dealings will expose them all

We all wonder how they become millionaires in a few years on a $174,000/yr salary

They have the assistance of their own Congressional Laundry Service to keep their funny money nice and clean


44 posted on 12/14/2019 10:40:29 AM PST by digger48
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To: Savage Beast

If 20 Republicans were to support the other side in an impeachment trial, wouldn’t they just as easily step out of line on absolving Trump as well?


45 posted on 12/14/2019 10:40:53 AM PST by Smellin Salt
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To: a little elbow grease

IMHO any day Trump must be covered on tv is a day he will become more popular. If we had a decent GOP they’d use a Senate trial to wipe the floor with the Democrats.
Bring in that lying dope Biden and his drug addict son. I’d put Hillary on the stand and let her embarrass herself defending all the things she’s been saying.
And I’d embarrass every Democrat senator running for president - how dare they vote to remove an opponent they can’t beat?
But no we have girls like Susan and Lindsay.


46 posted on 12/14/2019 10:42:19 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Aevery_Freeman
People post that sh!t about Justice Roberts’ adopted kids without even thinking about what they’re posting.

What kind of leverage would anyone have over him now? Could he lose custody of them? Those “kids” are now 18 or 19 years old.

47 posted on 12/14/2019 10:43:44 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: Savage Beast
Then appeal to the Supreme Court to have the "impeachment" declared bogus, unconstitutional, illegal, and politically motivated and thus nullified. Before the Court, President Trump's lawyers can subpoena as witnesses everyone involved in this "impeachment" scam, including Schiff, Nadler, Pelosi, their witnesses, and everyone even peripherally associated with it, and they can expose the truth before history and all the world.

At the Supreme Court one can only submit legal memos and make oral arguments. There are no witnesses.

48 posted on 12/14/2019 10:44:02 AM PST by KevinB ("Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - Charles Darwin)
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To: for-q-clinton
"But either way the GOPe can screw this up for Trump."

The GOP has time and again proved they can very easily snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

49 posted on 12/14/2019 10:44:18 AM PST by ImpBill (Conservative voter sans political Party!)
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To: gloryblaze
I VOTE FOR QUICK DISMISSAL because the DemonRat House's impeachment stunt is ILLEGITIMATE and therefore should NOT be LEGITIMIZED with a trial.

A trial in the Senate LEGITIMIZES the House's actions when we ALL KNOW THEY'RE FULL OF SCHIFF!

50 posted on 12/14/2019 10:44:31 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: a little elbow grease

There is a theory being floated that former Energy Secretary Rick Perry will backstab President Trump over LNG ( Liquid Natural Gas ) ports in Odessa. Sorry, don’t have any more details, but conflict energy means big, big money.


51 posted on 12/14/2019 10:47:12 AM PST by euclid216
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To: a little elbow grease

No, the Senate will not convict him in any possible universe.

And conjecture otherwise is just plain silly.


52 posted on 12/14/2019 10:47:56 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: a little elbow grease

It wouldn’t surprise me, nor would it surprise me at the lack of an organized response if they did successfully remove Trump from office.


53 posted on 12/14/2019 10:49:14 AM PST by CatOwner
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To: Hattie

“The main reason to go quick is Roberts IMO.”

Roberts, or any other judge, has no influence on the proceedings or the outcome.


54 posted on 12/14/2019 10:49:29 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Savage Beast

It can’t be appealed to the Supreme Court. There are no provisions for that in the Constitution. It ends in the Senate and there is no SC involvement other than the presiding judge.


55 posted on 12/14/2019 10:50:34 AM PST by Dave W
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To: a little elbow grease

the purpose of this article is to just foment GOP distrust-just see what it has done here with the post on this article

a quick dismissal may be the way to go only because the mainstream media still controls the narrative-e.g Fox news might get 4-5 million but the other s CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, CNN pull in 20-25 million all together

just like they didn’t carry Lindsey Graham’s opening statement in the hearing on the IG report-

they still shape what a majority think-that’s how they got to almost half supporting impeachment


56 posted on 12/14/2019 10:51:56 AM PST by TECTopcat (TopCat)
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To: boomop1
I believe little of what the Hill reports.

I can't speak to that as a general principle but you are dead right on this article.

What this report tells me is that there are probably more than one GOP Senator who is worried about the sweet deals he or she has going that needs to kept out of the light. Looking into corruption in the Ukraine, for example, could lead to looking for corruption elsewhere.

If so, the type and length of the trial is an issue. The final vote is not. Silly to think so.

57 posted on 12/14/2019 10:53:46 AM PST by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed.)
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To: impactplayer

I don’t think the SC Judge would do that and shouldn’t do that. That is not his role. This is not a courtroom but the Senate and the evidence is presented or not presented and then they vote whether it takes a few days or weeks. It’s not his role to dismiss.


58 posted on 12/14/2019 10:54:13 AM PST by Dave W
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To: a little elbow grease

What about the long term ramifications?

If the Democrats are allowed to get away with impeaching a Republican president for virtually no reason, it will cripple our system of government going forward.

Republicans need to make the Democrats pay dearly for what they’ve done.


59 posted on 12/14/2019 10:55:07 AM PST by Mr. N. Wolfe
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To: a little elbow grease

I don’t trust the repubs. If they have too much time, they might change their minds and stab Trump in the back. I vote for quick dismiss also.


60 posted on 12/14/2019 10:55:59 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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