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Is Puerto Rico ‘racist’? Online comments about new Miss Universe spark discussions
Orlando Sentinel ^ | 12/10/2019 | Jennifer A. Marcial Ocasio

Posted on 12/12/2019 6:36:04 AM PST by cll

When Adelaide Liverpool Castro grew up in her native Puerto Rico, she did not have a black woman outside of her family with whom she could identify. Thinking about the Miss Universe competition, she remembered how it was full of white women with straight and blond hair.

However, the popular beauty pageant was something she traditionally watched with her grandmother.

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On Sunday, Zozibini Tunzi of South Africa was crowned the new Miss Universe, beating out first runner-up Madison Anderson Berríos , who represented Puerto Rico in the pageant. Tunzi is the first black woman to become Miss Universe since Leila Lopes won as Miss Angola in 2011.

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However, while many in Puerto Rico like Liverpool Castro were happy that a black, short-haired woman won Miss Universe, others took social media to make fun of Tunzi or make comments that were called out as discriminatory and racist.

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Messages like “I can’t believe that the black woman won,” “So many women with beautiful hair and the bad hair won,” “... Shaka Zulu’s cousin answers well,” and “She looks like a monkey,” crammed social media outlets.

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All this led Con-Sentinmiento, a platform whose mission is to use social networks to educate and generate political, social and economic debates starting from an intersectional and anti-patriarchal feminist base, to publish a video criticizing racism in Puerto Rico. The video has gone viral.

“After the Miss Universe contest we were able to see what we already knew. Puerto Rico is a very racist country,”

“As white people we have to admit that we have an internalized racism, whether we want to admit it or not. We cannot, as white people, say what is racist and what is not racist". [said a Puerto Rican...]

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: missuniverse; puertorico
Is Puerto Rico racist? (read further) Is 'Puerto Rican' even a race? (it is not). AOC and other self-declared mainland Puerto Rican democrats left baffled.

Yes, way back when I was a kid and before, it was a thing to prove how white Spanish your family was, and blacks, before intermarriage became common, were a small minority here, and there was a lot of discrimination against them.

But these days? Please! Only in the minds of culture warriors does this conflict exist.

1 posted on 12/12/2019 6:36:04 AM PST by cll
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2 posted on 12/12/2019 6:37:26 AM PST by cll (Serviam!)
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"Puerto Rico is a very racist country,”

Well, it's totally controlled by Democrats, so I'm not surprised.

3 posted on 12/12/2019 6:38:12 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: cll

Even though Miss “high and tight” won the contest, I’m willing to bet Miss PR does better in the long run. She’s way hotter, and appeals to far more Americans.


4 posted on 12/12/2019 6:38:54 AM PST by EEGator
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What is racist is picking a winner, less attractive than others, simply because she is black.


5 posted on 12/12/2019 6:40:09 AM PST by MichaelRDanger
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To: All
I know. Rules.


6 posted on 12/12/2019 6:41:07 AM PST by cll (Serviam!)
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It seems if Africans don’t win EVERYTHING now, the race card is played. Just wait until next year, only trannys will be allowed to win.


7 posted on 12/12/2019 6:41:22 AM PST by Starcitizen (American. No hypenation necessary. Send the H1B and H4EAD slime home. American jobs for Americans)
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To: cll

“As white people we have to admit that we have an internalized racism, whether we want to admit it or not. We cannot, as white people, say what is racist and what is not racist”

Ummm... https://twitter.com/HikindDov/status/1204806510762741760?s=20


8 posted on 12/12/2019 6:45:52 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: cll

“As white people we have to admit that we have an internalized racism, whether we want to admit it or not. We cannot, as white people, say what is racist and what is not racist”.

To put this in terms that libertarians and objectivists can understand, they are requiring the sanction of the victim. Shrug.


9 posted on 12/12/2019 7:49:22 AM PST by cdcdawg (Cornpop was a bad dude!)
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To: cll

Wait. What were we talking about? What’s the problem?


10 posted on 12/12/2019 8:04:02 AM PST by Flick Lives (MSM, the Enemy of the People since 1898)
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To: cll

It’s a preference! Or are we going to call a black person who prefers a partner who is lighter skinned or white “racist” as well?

Oh, and if it’s impossible for black people to be racist, then why can’t Puerto Ricans be socially immune from being racist?


11 posted on 12/12/2019 8:04:22 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: cdcdawg

ethnocentrism


12 posted on 12/12/2019 8:07:45 AM PST by Colt1851Navy (What was wrong with Nixon?)
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To: Colt1851Navy

Only one group is not allowed to do it.


13 posted on 12/12/2019 8:41:43 AM PST by cdcdawg (Cornpop was a bad dude!)
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To: cll
Madi did a great job and she represented PR well. Miss SA brought forth race, skin color and hair (or lack thereof) and she did a check-mate on Madi and Miss Mexico and won the crown. Rightfully so. She was smart and has charisma. It is what it is.

Madi could have very well brought the fact that she was discriminated by many when she won the Miss PR crown in June because she was called "white" and "gringa" and a bunch of horrible things. She learned to better her Spanish in 3 months and immersed herself in all things Puerto Rican. She did not bring this up in Miss Universe - there was no need to. Miss Mexico could have brought up the issue of the southern border, the children in cages, and how 'racist' Trump is and she could have won the crown as well. She did not do this. I respect that.

There were 6 female judges. The pageant was in Atlanta, held at Tyler Perry Studios. I think that this made a difference. Had there been a male judge or two (real men, not pussies), then Madi could have won. It's not a pageant about beauty anymore, it's now about Empowerment. Well, if that's the case, then someone needs to create a Miss Empowerment Pageant. I prefer the old Trump-Era Miss Universe.

In another topic about Madi, her mom Belinda said it best, in a post yesterday:

Madison es Puertorriqueña tanto como Yo, que soy su madre. Yo soy puertorriqueña y mis ancestros fueron mujeres luchadoras, fuertes y orgullosas de su tierra.El que yo haya tenido que partir a rumbo de otras tierras no se deja de amar a PR. Al contrario, se tiene que hacer más esfuerzos y tiempo para mantener tradiciones y enseñar lo que no se aprende en tu nuevo país de PR. El amor y respeto a Puerto Rico se enseña a nuestros hijos en el hogar diariamente. Ese es nuestro legado. En la historia del mundo hay muchas civilizaciones y pueblos que han desaparecido con el tiempo. Se dice que se incorporaron a nuevas tierras y dejaron su identidad y tradiciones. Eso es una realidad! Te diré que Puerto Rico nunca morira, porque no importa en que tierras estemos la madre puertorriqueña le hablara a sus hijos de su isla,le enseñara de sus tradiciones y canto a sus hijos y esos hijos se convierten en hijos de Borinquen. Talves no hablamos el español perfecto que usted tiene pero vamos hablar directo al corazón! “Yo soy Boricua para que tú lo sepas” y mi hija lo es también! Viva mi patria que por siempre la amare! Dios lo bendiga y tenga un buen día!

14 posted on 12/12/2019 1:15:30 PM PST by SilvieWaldorfMD (A Realistically Really Real Housewife)
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To: cll

Muey bien.

5.56mm


15 posted on 12/12/2019 1:18:40 PM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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