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Early climate change models were pretty accurate, study finds
UPI ^ | December 5, 2019 | By Brooks Hays

Posted on 12/09/2019 7:42:39 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Early climate models get a bad wrap for being imprecise, but new research suggests they were surprisingly accurate.

Researchers at the University of California, Berkeley, Massachusetts Institute of Technology and NASA reviewed 17 climate models described in scientific papers over the last several decades. The earliest were developed in the 1970s, while the most recent were created in late 2000s.

Of the 17 models, analysis showed 14 were very accurate in predicting the average global temperature in the years following their publication.

"The real message is that the warming we have experienced is pretty much exactly what climate models predicted it would be as much as 30 years ago," lead study author Zeke Hausfarter, a doctoral student in UC Berkeley's Energy and Resources Group, said in a news release. "This really gives us more confidence that today's models are getting things largely right as well."

Scientists looked at each model's prediction for the Earth's average temperature based on greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere, and compared the predictions to actual global temperatures recorded at similar greenhouse gas levels.

In effect, the study's authors looked at how well models simulated the relationship between emissions and temperature increases, not at how well models predicted changes in global emissions.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; hoax; prettymuch; propaganda; socialism; unscientific
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1 posted on 12/09/2019 7:42:39 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Climate Models from the 1970s predicted an Ice Age.

Are they now spinning this to be “We warmed up just like the 1970s model said we would”?


2 posted on 12/09/2019 7:44:26 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The weather folks have a hard time predicting accurate weather 3 days in advance, let alone 30 years.


3 posted on 12/09/2019 7:44:34 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

About as accurate as Jerrold Nadler’s claim Trump is as guilty as sin.


4 posted on 12/09/2019 7:44:35 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever p)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Climate Change fraudsters verify studies made by other Climate Change fraudsters. What a surprise!


5 posted on 12/09/2019 7:45:23 AM PST by Leaning Right ( I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

How much did they have to “correct” actual instrument-based weather data to achieve this result?


6 posted on 12/09/2019 7:46:12 AM PST by Edward Teach
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Well, Mr. Spock was telling us about this circa 1978 (using Buffalo's winter of '77 as an example).
7 posted on 12/09/2019 7:47:03 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The earliest models showed a coming ice age.

From there they just rigged all the data to get the results that they wanted. A complete fraud.


8 posted on 12/09/2019 7:47:18 AM PST by Revel
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“14 were very accurate in predicting the average global temperature”

Determining average global temperature is ludicrous.

To the extent it could even be approximated, the standard deviation would be much greater than the changes in temperature they claim.


9 posted on 12/09/2019 7:48:15 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: OttawaFreeper

Exactly they even made movies about it.


10 posted on 12/09/2019 7:49:03 AM PST by himno hero (had'nff)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Anyone can play this game.

Look back at previous predicitions.

Find those models that moved in the right direction.

Write an article showing those models were accurate. There are many more models than 17 out there over the time period.

The skeptical question is: How did they pick these 17 models?

What is their definition of “accurate”?


11 posted on 12/09/2019 7:49:06 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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exactly what climate models predicted it would be as much as 30 years ago,

PUT THE PIPE DOWN you pointy headed little weenie, Up until 1979 EVERY CLIMATE SCIENTIST and EVERY CLIMATE MODEL predicted and warned of the NEW ICE AGE!!!


12 posted on 12/09/2019 7:49:06 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

BS. Just like early hurricane track models SOME are accurate and some are wildly wrong. If you merely pick the ones that were right and say “see”? then you’re not buttressing science - just propagandizing.


13 posted on 12/09/2019 7:49:32 AM PST by Skywise
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To: ClearCase_guy

This article was written from the underwater colony formerly known as New York City....

Not!


14 posted on 12/09/2019 7:49:34 AM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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Early climate models get a bad wrap...

The descent into illiteracy continues unabated.

15 posted on 12/09/2019 7:52:56 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
...is pretty much exactly what climate models predicted...
Not a scientific report -- pretty much exactly complete BS. Thanks Oldeconomybuyer.

16 posted on 12/09/2019 7:53:29 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

That’s because they massaged the data to fit the models.


17 posted on 12/09/2019 7:56:51 AM PST by Ingtar (Bedbugs, thy name is Democrat.)
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To: marktwain

Excellent point. What if there 200 models? What if there were more? If only 17 were right that would mean that 92% were not accurate. I mean if I buy a ticket on every horse in the race, I can say I picked 10 winners in a row.


18 posted on 12/09/2019 7:59:38 AM PST by fhayek
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Such crap - Gore said Manhattan would be long underwater by now.

And the “hockey stick” is a proven fraud. No shame!


19 posted on 12/09/2019 7:59:42 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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“In effect, the study’s authors looked at how well models simulated the relationship between emissions and temperature increases, not at how well models predicted changes in global emissions.”

In effect, the study’s authors massaged the data to make it look like the models were accurate, when in fact, they were not.


20 posted on 12/09/2019 8:01:22 AM PST by Boogieman
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