President Trump's trade policy seems to have achieved the impossible

USA Today via Yahoo News ^ | 12/05/2019 | Juscelino F. Colares

[SpeedyInTexas]

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[SpeedyInTexas]

I think it is time for the Free Traders to confess they were wrong about Trump's tariffs.

Right here on FR, they proclaimed how bad tariffs were, how many jobs would be lost, recession, maybe depression was coming. They were wrong. This is the best economy of our lives.

In many parts of the country, a shortage of workers is the problem, not a shortage of jobs.

The trade deficit with China has declined $50 billion from its peak. The lower trade deficit adds to GDP. Expect 4th quarter GDP to head back towards 3%.

[Hostage]

There are many smart conservatives on FR but there is a contingent of FR retards whose single digit IQs tend to cheapen the forum and ruin the brand.

[blueyon]

WOW Yahoo News writing something good about Trump...

[rightwingcrazy]

I believe that world peace is an excellent idea, but, realistically, we need a strong military that we’re willing to use, because there are other nations that would hurt us if they could.

I feel similarly about tariffs.

[Nifster]

Oh gosh a Wharton school graduate who has actually run his own international business is smarter than a bunch of book educated academics

[eyeamok]

I think it is time for the Free Traders to confess they were wrong about Trump's tariffs.

Your premise is just plain wrong. The so called "free traders" never cared about trade per se, it was merely a vehicle they could use to Destroy the United States of America and prop up the surrounding Communist, Tyrannical Dictators of the World in an effort to usher in the New World Order, a World Government of Marxist Elites watching over the serfs of every country and doing what is necessary to keep them desperate, poor and without hope.

They only have 1 goal, the complete financial destruction of the United States and the perpetual enslavement of it's people through Welfare, Entitlements and Dependence.

[mmichaels1970]

I think it is time for the Free Traders to confess they were wrong about Trump's tariffs.

I learned a bit about some positive benefits of the Chinese tariffs a couple days ago when I was responding to a liberal relative's FB post.

She shared an article complaining that our garlic from China was mixed with bleach and being grown in fields fertilized with human excrement. Her post was meant to be a subtle jab at Trump.

First, I looked at her article and noticed that it was from 2016 and was using data collected in 2014. So interesting issue #1: this was on Obama's watch.

Now it got REALLY interesting when I looked to see about how garlic is doing now. Turns out that the tariffs on the Chinese have dramatically reduced our imports of Chinese garlic and instead have been a boom for domestically produced garlic. The domestic garlic is NOT being bleached and I would like to think is obviously not being fertilized with human waste.

Garlic farmers love the trade war and credit it with saving their business from cheap, low-standard product from China.

Furthermore, I learned that our honey farmers (bee keepers) are feeling much the same. I guess in 2016ish, it was found that the Chinese were selling honey below cost and mixing it with corn syrup in an effort to dominate the honey market. Honey was listed at the time as the world's third most "faked food". The Chinese were messing somehow with diluting or doctoring the pollen in the honey in order to mask the signature of where it came from.

The "trade war" slapped tariffs on the honey and caused domestic honey that supposedly is NOT faked to be able to once again compete with the inferior grade Chinese honey. So beekeepers are crediting the trade war with saving them too.

I saw something about crawfish, but I didn't dig into that industry.

Just interesting stuff I stumbled on when I was looking to debunk and accusation made towards the President.

[aquila48]

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[deek69]

I felt the same way. Was looking out the window, couldn’t see the four horses....

‘WOW Yahoo News writing something good about Trump...’

[SpeedyInTexas]

Thanks for the info.

Food imports from China should be totally banned. Just asking for health problems with that.

[SunkenCiv]

[SunkenCiv]

Worth a read. Thanks SpeedyInTexas.

[DannyTN]

All food from China needs to be halted until it can be verified to be grown and process in safe conditions.

I will pay twice as much for crawfish from Louisiana over Chinese crawfish because I understand the Chineses basically grow theirs in cess pools of human waste.

Some thing from China just say no.

It’s like finding a half rotten kabab lying on the sidewalk. It might be free but it’s not worth the risk.

[mmichaels1970]

It’s like finding a half rotten kabab lying on the sidewalk. It might be free but it’s not worth the risk.

5 second rule notwithstanding. :)

I completely agree with you. The only alternative is to hang a big ol Chinese flag in the grocery store with a disclaimer underneath so people at least KNOW they're buying food that originated in China.

[Robert DeLong]

Some were not even free traders, some were just concerned about getting some goods at cheaper prices. They were really the shortest-sighted people I have ever witnessed.

The true free-traders had just been so brainwashed with the whole idea, not that free trade is a bad thing, that they couldn't see that we were the only party engaging in free trade. They were the second greatest short-sighted people I have ever witnessed.

Those of us who clearly saw the reality obviously stood in support of the tariffs and the President's application of them.

Rather than scorn them, we should praise ourselves. 8>)

[mmichaels1970]

The true free-traders had just been so brainwashed with the whole idea, not that free trade is a bad thing, that they couldn't see that we were the only party engaging in free trade.

That would be me. I mistook free trade for capitalism.

While I DO think that unions make us our own worst enemy, I can now see how the crap coming from the commies and despots is worse.

[SteveH]

unexpected?... drink! :)

[Robert DeLong]

Without capitalism, there would be no free trade. That said, free trade must be executed by everyone, otherwise, the entity truly engaging in free trade becomes the useful idiot that most assuredly will fall victim to the ruthless traders who do not. That was the reality, in spades, with our free trade engagement with many nations. All was good when the other countries were still in their infancy and catching up. But they all caught up long ago, and we were the simpletons who never adjusted to that reality. That is until President Trump. 8>)

[SandwicheGuy]

Good post. Thanks.