Posted on 12/03/2019 12:56:08 PM PST by Midwesterner53
When Army Captain Russell Rippetoe was killed in action on April 2, 2003 -- the first combat casualty of Operation Iraqi Freedom -- then-President George W. Bush spoke about how Rippetoe had on his dog tags "Joshua 1:9" engraved on it.
For the past 20 years, military members have been able to wear dog tags with Bible verses on them, giving them light and hope in some of their darkest times. For some Gold Star families, this is one of their most cherished possessions to remember their loved one who gave the ultimate sacrifice. But all this could be coming to an end.
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Hide it under a bushel.
“So print out another tag and put it with the other two.
Is anyone stopping that? It’s not like it’s hard to do.”
...you’re missing the point, The Army, which is an institution of the government, which has no business or authority to curtail the exercise of personal religious expression in this manner. Are you Ok with the Army doing that? It’s not like any given service member is plastering the side of a tank or warship with a banner ad or something, it’s a dog tag for God’s sake.
What’s it to you?
Who ever wore dog tags after basic training?
Yes. PROT NODENOM.
So am I, but I have no problem with any of our warriors having verses from their faith on their dog tags.
This Weinstein feller is not just an agnostic, he's also a mean-spirited, "virtue"-signaling fool.
What's next? Banning Catholics from wearing St. Christopher medals? No sacred underwear for Mormons? No Magen Davids for Jews?
These tags are in addition to the two standard ones each soldier receives. Unless a trademarked logo is on the tag (Army Seal, Divisional symbol, etc.); I don’t see how the Army can force them to cease making and selling the tags. Meaning, an oval tag with a notch in it does not make a trademark.
It looks like this is in reference to commercially made and sold “dog tags” NOT the ones that are issued by each service branch during initial in processing or by their personnel section if lost.
Each service has what is imprinted on their tag. For the Army it is Name, DOD ID Number (replaced SSNs in 2015) Blood Type, and Religion.
If I were holding a “dog tag” inspection, I would expect to see my soldiers having their Army issued ID tags. If they wanted a commercially made one like those in this article, I’d say, fine, but by regulation you must have an Army issued tag, go to the personnel section and get a pair.
No link.
Thanks. Now does telling this company they can’t put Bible versus on tags mean that service members can’t wear tags with verses on them? To the army is this more of a trademark issue than a faith based one?
And for those that wonder why the German population welcomed ‘crystalnacht’: Germany’s Mickey Weinsteins abound in Anton Gill, A Dance Between Flames: Berlin Between the Wars, 1993.
See Post 35
Thanks. Shoulda scrolled down...
I think the question now is, forget about what we think of Mickey, does he have a point? (Does the suit have merit?)
I don’t disagree with anything you posted, and made my post only in response to the apparent allegation that Whine-Stain is Jewish (which he is not).
The man is an ass, for clarity.
We Jews have plenty of Jewish assholes. I just ask that people kindly don’t blame us for the assholes that are not Jewish.
Yeah, I don’t think a handful of asshole mischlings caused the rise of the Nazis in Germany, no matter how stupid said mischlings might have been.
Useful scapegoats, though.
I do wish assholes like Whine-Stain would go away.
“This was the only order I willfully disobeyed in the Army.”
Good for you.
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Inspectable uniform item everywhere I went... 1985-1999.
Yes, I believe they still do. Sorry, but the tags are considered to be an official document, and not to be altered by other than the service branch.
An additional tag is easy to have made. Wear it with the other two. I knew many over the years who wore a small cross or religious medal on the chain with the tags.
I am a Christian who deplores what government and society is doing to kill Christianity. I preface my remark so as to deflect any criticism I might receive.
I am a combat veteran from the Korean war - and during my time there were strict rules that dog tags were not to be altered in any way from what appeared on them when issued. The primary purpose of the dog tag was to identify casualties. The notch in the tag was so that they could be wedged between the teeth of a dead GI separating top teeth from bottom teeth holding the mouth open.
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