Posted on 11/28/2019 6:22:56 AM PST by Chode
"The project of disciplining all the militia of the United States is as futile as it would be injurious, if it were capable of being carried into execution. A tolerable expertness in military movements is a business that requires time and practice. It is not a day, or even a week, that will suffice for the attainment of it. To oblige the great body of the yeomanry, and of the other classes of the citizens, to be under arms for the purpose of going through military exercises and evolutions, as often as might be necessary to acquire the degree of perfection which would entitle them to the character of a well-regulated militia, would be a real grievance to the people, and a serious public inconvenience and loss. It would form an annual deduction from the productive labor of the country, to an amount which, calculating upon the present numbers of the people, would not fall far short of the whole expense of the civil establishments of all the States. To attempt a thing which would abridge the mass of labor and industry to so considerable an extent, would be unwise: and the experiment, if made, could not succeed, because it would not long be endured. Little more can reasonably be aimed at, with respect to the people at large, than to have them properly armed and equipped; and in order to see that this be not neglected, it will be necessary to assemble them once or twice in the course of a year.James Madison, Federalist #46:But though the scheme of disciplining the whole nation must be abandoned as mischievous or impracticable; yet it is a matter of the utmost importance that a well-digested plan should, as soon as possible, be adopted for the proper establishment of the militia. The attention of the government ought particularly to be directed to the formation of a select corps of moderate extent, upon such principles as will really fit them for service in case of need. By thus circumscribing the plan, it will be possible to have an excellent body of well-trained militia, ready to take the field whenever the defense of the State shall require it. This will not only lessen the call for military establishments, but if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist...
Where in the name of common-sense, are our fears to end if we may not trust our sons, our brothers, our neighbors, our fellow-citizens? What shadow of danger can there be from men who are daily mingling with the rest of their countrymen and who participate with them in the same feelings, sentiments, habits and interests?
But ambitious encroachments of the federal government, on the authority of the State governments, would not excite the opposition of a single State, or of a few States only. They would be signals of general alarm. Every government would espouse the common cause. A correspondence would be opened. Plans of resistance would be concerted. One spirit would animate and conduct the whole...That the people and the States should, for a sufficient period of time, elect an uninterupted succession of men ready to betray both; that the traitors should, throughout this period, uniformly and systematically pursue some fixed plan for the extension of the military establishment; that the governments and the people of the States should silently and patiently behold the gathering storm, and continue to supply the materials, until it should be prepared to burst on their own heads, must appear to every one more like the incoherent dreams of a delirious jealousy, or the misjudged exaggerations of a counterfeit zeal, than like the sober apprehensions of genuine patriotism.
-PJ
Does that mean they will also close down all martial arts and boxing places?
Looks like a questionable trend with this law. Why don’t they just severely punish whoever uses a firearm illegally? Why the political acrobatics? The answer is obvious, they don’t want to punish criminals, they only want to make sure the general populace is defenseless when they pass REALLY crazy laws and policies. We are headed into the abyss in a free fall.
“....purpose of the training is for the students to learn how to defend a farm.”
I think you actually supplied an excuse to use the training with this. Defense of one’s self and property is guaranteed in the Constitution and supported by local laws all over the country. And the best manual for doing that in this country comes out of the military which is controlled by the government. Excuses are easy to provide. Facts have to be proved.
rwood
Virginia is fallen.
Texas is next.
The military leadership is blue.
See you in the catacombs.
There are politicians who truly believe any vote for Trump is hate crime.
There are business that ask as part of the review process “Why did you give to this PAC? How do you think that will be seen by our shareholders? What will you do to assure them that they are welcome here since you are presenting hate?>” (I left a company shortly after that talk).
Heck, there was a standoff in upstate New York recently.
This law will be used to round out those the legislature want to remove, and scare the rest.
The resistance will occupy the Interstate hiways and starve out the Africanized cities. Truckers will not pay to run the gauntlet with their lives
If you live in a city, move
I don’t, and won’t.
What will you do when the tanks roll in? And they will be ordered to.
And elsewhere in Virginia a guy who murdered two people is only spending 42 years in jail, and a woman who was also convicted of first degree murder was sentenced to 48 years in prison.
You can be sure anyone with politically unpopular views who does something that harms one of the politically popular groups, like Antifa, will face a relentless prosecution by the government, and their intent at the moment will not get much consideration.
“There are politicians who truly believe any vote for Trump is hate crime.”
I don’t disagree. But the way to stop this is to vote their keysters back to the street. This is what a democracy is about. And right now enough bad politicians are in power. How did they get there? The vote. So the fault is of the people that voted them in or the ones that didn’t campaign against them. And guess who that is. The same people that are unhappy with the new law.
rwood
Please see my entry #110. I don’t live in Virginia, I have no say. I have enough trouble in Washington State with the idiot, lying liberals up here.
rwood
Personally I don't know anything about him or his sight. I saw the article title posted on The Liberty Daily.
thx...
and I’ve heard there are 7 empty seats on the bench here in Virginia right now that could be filled before the Dems takeover in January?
Friend, if one vote ends your working life, and lands you in hot water, and one allows you to continue (or just not vote) what would you do?
For that matter, when both candidates parrot the same thing, what is the point?
Still some day light between the two teams, but both are rushing over themselves to ban “hateful” talk.
So the choice is move to a better point in the cube (if you can, this is the best choice). Connect with people near you, or go dark and drop off the radar.
Trump has angered all of the .gov workers. They hate him. You can not run a company if all the workers want you gone. More so in a situation where firing them is considered a hate crime.
“Trump has angered all of the .gov workers. They hate him.”
One of the problems Trump inherited from Obama and his operation was the growth of government. The number of federal employees grew by 123,000, or 6.2%, under President Obama, according to the White House’s Office of Management and Budget. The federal government has been one of the few areas that’s grown during the economic downturn. The federal debt owed to the public rose 128 percent. Deficits were rising as Obama departed and that included the hiring of federal workers.
President Obama set a record for the size of the basic federal workforce, leaving office with more than 1.4 million people collecting government salaries in the civilian agencies in 2017, according to the last budget he delivered to Congress. And that is not the military, that’s straight job creation in civilian agencies and department personnel.
With the thought that Trumps availability of funds, which was running at a huge deficit in his predecessor’s finishing numbers, how do you pay for them. It isn ‘t right to blame Trump for having to clean up the HR mistakes Obama made. And with the deficit Obama built, you can’t bleed a turnip.
rwood
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