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Trump Keeps Losing in Court. But His Legal Strategy Is Winning Anyway.
NYT ^ | Nov 27, 2019 | Charlie Savage

Posted on 11/27/2019 5:50:30 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage?

WASHINGTON — Critics of President Trump cheered on Monday when a federal judge ruled that the former White House counsel Donald F. McGahn II must testify to Congress — and scathingly labeled “fiction” the administration’s arguments that top White House aides are immune from congressional subpoenas.

Indeed, the outcome was the latest in a string of lower-court losses for Mr. Trump as he defends his stonewalling of lawmakers’ oversight and the impeachment investigation. Other fights are playing out in the courts over Mr. Trump’s financial records and grand-jury evidence in the Russia investigation.

But from a realist perspective, Mr. Trump is winning despite losing.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2020election; alexandervindman; burisma; charliesavage; courts; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; election2020; ericciaramella; judiciary; mediawingofthednc; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; partisanmediashills; politicaljudiciary; presstitutes; smearmachine; trump; ukraine
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Meaning the once the Obama judges are over ruled, Trump wins.
1 posted on 11/27/2019 5:50:30 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage?
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The Slimes failed to mention that the judges in question are all Osama Obama appointees.That’s what leftists do when they try to circumvent laws and make unconstitutional demands...they go to a judge appointed by Osama Obama,BillyBob or the Peanut Farmer.


2 posted on 11/27/2019 5:55:19 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Separation of Powers, stupid. Author should read the Constitution. We are a 3 branch government, but the Democratic House thinks they are God..


3 posted on 11/27/2019 5:55:37 PM PST by richardtavor
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Lower court judges block Trump's lawfully administrative orders: "Cheers from the Left! Go Resistance! Woo-hoo!"

SCOTUS slaps them down: "Why, muh them right-wing radical bumpkin SCOTUS justices are in the pockets of Drumpf! Not fair!"

4 posted on 11/27/2019 6:01:01 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (20 FReepin' years of Freakin' FReeping!!! FReep yeah!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Partisan Media Shills update.


5 posted on 11/27/2019 6:02:41 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

They sure like judges and appealling when they go to court to block lawfully passed laws they opposed.

when socialist lose, courts good.

when socialists win, its stonewalling.

i seriously wish cwii would just get going. i can still fight.


6 posted on 11/27/2019 6:05:01 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Opinion headliners aren’t news. Numerical analysis is news.


7 posted on 11/27/2019 6:09:00 PM PST by blackdog
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

He loses these cases because the plaintiffs explicitly go Demorat judge-shopping. They don’t randomly choose jurisdictions.


8 posted on 11/27/2019 6:18:50 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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Why the NYT Must Die
9 posted on 11/27/2019 6:47:16 PM PST by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be destroyed.)
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The Bolshies are judge shopping, and, the Judges are vastly overstepping their authority, greatly, enhancing their chance of being overturned.


10 posted on 11/27/2019 6:51:48 PM PST by depressed in 06 (60 in '20. Now, more than ever!)
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Talk about delusional: Trump keeps WINNING in court. Perhaps only on appeal, but only the final ruling matters.


11 posted on 11/27/2019 6:52:43 PM PST by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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He does not have to testify, he has to respond to the subpoena and show up. They they can stipulate Executive privileged and he does not have to say a damn thing.


12 posted on 11/27/2019 6:58:19 PM PST by oldenuff35
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I don’t recall any losses. A single judge is not the final word


13 posted on 11/27/2019 7:27:00 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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If obozo appointed these judges why can’t Trump unappoint them?


14 posted on 11/27/2019 7:33:00 PM PST by oldasrocks (Heavily Medicated for your Protection.)
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Correction. Mr Trump loses a number of lower court rulings. And then they get sent back or overruled by the Supremes.


15 posted on 11/27/2019 8:01:40 PM PST by lurk
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That’s not the way it works


16 posted on 11/27/2019 8:03:10 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Yeah, he loses in LOWER courts.


17 posted on 11/27/2019 8:09:47 PM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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How exactly did Trump “lose” to Judge Jumanji? She had to stay her OWN ruling to prevent the embarrassment of appellate slap-down.


18 posted on 11/27/2019 8:44:25 PM PST by montag813
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What will the NYT do when Trump flips the Ninth Circus?


19 posted on 11/27/2019 9:37:54 PM PST by TChad
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To: Gay State Conservative

2. Please don’t confuse NYT reporting with facts and logic. Against their Ethics code about honest reporting.


20 posted on 11/27/2019 10:55:14 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures)
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