Navy secretary threatened to resign over Trump's request, but not top SEAL commander: officials [NO]

Fox News ^ | November 23, 2019 | Morgan Phillips, Lucas Tomlinson

[jazusamo]

[Headline not true according to article]

Navy Secretary Richard Spencer threatened to resign if the Navy was not allowed to go through with an administrative review board next month to determine if Eddie Gallagher could remain a SEAL, multiple Navy officials confirmed to Fox News

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Earlier Saturday, The New York Times reported that along with Spencer, Naval Special Warfare (NSW) Commander Rear Adm. Collin Green also threatened to resign if the Navy carries out the request of President Trump to restore Gallagher’s rank to chief petty officer after he was demoted last summer. Gallagher was found not guilty of murdering an Islamic State (ISIS) fighter during a 2017 deployment to Iraq but was convicted of posing for a photo with the dead corpse.

However, officials say that The Times was inaccurate in reporting that Green threatened to resign over the Gallagher disagreement. Only Spencer -- not Green -- made such a threat, they said

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However, Spencer denied threatening to resign at a defense conference in Halifax, Canada, on Saturday, according to reporters present.

“I’m still here, I did not threaten to resign, we’re here to talk about external threats and Eddie Gallagher is not one of them,” Spencer said during a panel on the Arctic. Spencer told reporters he works at the pleasure of the president.

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However, Spencer told reporters the president has every right to intervene in military justice proceedings.

"The president of the United States is the commander in chief, he’s involved in every aspect of government and he can make decisions and do things and give orders as he deems appropriate," he said.

Spencer said that if he receives official orders -- not in the form of a tweet -- the disciplinary process against Gallagher will cease.

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[AFreeBird]

Yea, I agree. The SEAL’s should be able to decide who’s a SEAL.

It’s not a choir club.

POTUS can give him back his rank and pension, be he can’t, or shouldn’t, dictate what he, specifically, does. POTUS, regardless of who it is, just doesn’t know.

He can force the teams to take him back, but if, for what ever reason, they felt he broke the faith, that’s on him to fix.

But what do I know. I’m just a civilian.

[William Tell]

"... he can’t, or shouldn’t, dictate what he, specifically, does."

How far down the ranks does that principle apply? Can a buck sergeant simply decide that he is more knowledgeable than the First Sergeant? Can a Captain pronounce himself more competent than a Major and ignore the Major?

That is simply not the way it works. Nor would it ever be possible to make it work. How many levels of higher rank can the person responsible for punishing the soldier ignore?

Our Founders greatly feared a standing military. The President is Commander-in-Chief as one of the checks on the military. His lawful orders are to be obeyed by EVERYONE in the military.

[wiley]

I prefer to believe that the Admiral is a warrior, not a politician. Time will tell.

[alexander_busek]

So when they attacked Midway, we were waiting for them. That was handled very much the same in the previous Midway movie. So it must be authentic.

Yeah, and the attack on Pearl Harbor was also handled very much the same in several motion pictures I have seen, so that must be authentic.

There are numerous excellent books on the history of WWII which I suggest that you read. It beats Hollywood motion pictures for determining what was "authentic."

Regards,

[poconopundit]

RE: Midway movie. As I look back on the movie, I can say that there was not a single example of gratuitous violence.

The attack on Pearl Harbor was incredibly realistic, and great thought was put in on how to dramatically tell the story. No BS like trying to put progressive, feminist, multi-cultural spin to the story. Real solid acting. Can’t say enough. Certainly the best war movie scene and it may be the finest movie ever scene.

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RE: the death penalty. I doubt that bringing back the death penalty was aimed at the coup. But we haven’t seen the end of this story yet. What if violence was perpetrated on the First Family? We nearly lost several congressmen and senators at a baseball game.

[Albion Wilde]

85 posts and no “Well, bye!” graphic? FR is slipping!

[Impy]

I guess it wasn’t fake news. Spencer has been canned, outted himself as a deepstater.