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Navy secretary DEFIES Trump...(truncated)
Daily Mail ^ | 22 Nov 2019 | Ariel Zilber

Posted on 11/23/2019 8:47:19 AM PST by Mr Rogers

Navy Secretary Richard Spencer said on Friday a Navy SEAL convicted of battlefield misconduct should face a board of peers weighing whether to oust him from the elite force, despite President Donald Trump's assertion that he not be expelled. 'I believe the process matters for good order and discipline,' Spencer told Reuters, weighing in on a confrontation between Trump and senior Navy officials over the outcome of a high-profile war-crimes case....

...The Navy responded with a statement saying it would follow 'lawful orders' from the president to halt the review but was awaiting further guidance, suggesting his Twitter post was not considered a formal directive....

...Trump’s intervention into the Navy’s affairs has angered senior military officers and civilian officials in the Pentagon, according to the Post....

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gallagher
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To: southernerwithanattitude

The President should summon this jackass into the Oval Office, along with the JCS and other senior flag officers, hand them copies of The Constitution, and summarily fire his ass while making it ABUNDANTLY clear WHO is in charge and WHO sets policy!


21 posted on 11/23/2019 9:05:17 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Takedown My Duly Elected President and You're Attacking The Constitution! IT WILL BE DEFENDED!)
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To: Mr Rogers
What in the hell is going on in the military?

The same thing that's happened to most every other American institution and tradition.

22 posted on 11/23/2019 9:05:36 AM PST by workerbee (America finally has an American president again.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Well, maybe he is confident of a good gig at CNN being their “expert Navy authority” and spend his time trashing Trump....that ignorant country bumpkin. /s


23 posted on 11/23/2019 9:06:47 AM PST by OldArmy52 (Mayor Buttplug for President!)
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To: KC_Lion

Read my lips...idiots, POTUS, Donald J. Trump is the Commander-In-Chief...period!!! Both the military brass and the government civilian employees need a house cleaning real bad. You know the old saying...”The boss is not always right...but, the boss is still the boss!!!” Trumpie....at some point, sir...get rid of some of these useless “government employees” deadbeats!!!


24 posted on 11/23/2019 9:08:15 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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To: Vendome

Trump told him, “Get back to work”


25 posted on 11/23/2019 9:08:56 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: OldArmy52

Sure, why not? Clapper and McCabe have been on CNN. More recently, liberal pit-bull lawyer Weissman.


26 posted on 11/23/2019 9:09:08 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Mr Rogers

The President is always the commander in chief. This is insubordination in a military officer. Gotta go.


27 posted on 11/23/2019 9:10:03 AM PST by tbw2
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To: KC_Lion

Trump’s intervention into the Navy’s affairs has angered senior military officers and civilian officials in the Pentagon, according to the Post.


This and the recent testimony by the sanctimonious state department employees has given us a true glimpse into the mindset of these bureaucrats who serve under our tax dollars...


28 posted on 11/23/2019 9:11:14 AM PST by patriotspride
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To: Mr Rogers

You are correct about salute and obey. But you have to have an order first. The President extrapolating on twitter is not an order to anyone. It is his thoughts on the subject. If he is serious, I believe he is, call the SECNAV, either to the oval office or on the phone, and give him a direct order to cease and desist with the review board. If he does not follow the order, fire him then.


29 posted on 11/23/2019 9:11:25 AM PST by Bull Snipe
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Are we still paying for trannys in the millitary?


30 posted on 11/23/2019 9:14:07 AM PST by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
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To: Mr Rogers

Dims are probably trying to set up another scenario for impeachment.


31 posted on 11/23/2019 9:16:41 AM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: Bull Snipe

well...when someone rises to head the navy, they should be smart enough to take a tweet from the President as “advice” that should be followed...and not challenged in public if at all...


32 posted on 11/23/2019 9:19:32 AM PST by rolling_stone (no justice no peace no epstein no justice)
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To: Bull Snipe

“The President extrapolating on twitter is not an order to anyone.”

Really? If my boss sent me an email, it wouldn’t really be an order?

The SecNav knows damn well what Trump expects and wants. Trump is NOT a subtle man. He’s publicly disobeying Trump and threatening to resign (maybe) if he doesn’t get to overrule Trump.

Orders need to be clear enough to understand and be delivered. Done! The SecNav KNOWS what Trump wants. He’s made that VERY clear in the article. He knows. He’s received it. He just doesn’t agree. So he’s publicly defying the President in the news media.

My commanders would have eviscerated me. I’d have had my subordinates by the balls.


33 posted on 11/23/2019 9:21:01 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Mr Rogers
“I believe the process matters for good order and discipline,’ Spencer told Reuters,”

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That is the whole point here. Gallagher was rail roaded and the entire military justice system abused its power and corrupted the process to persecute the guy.

The whole process was corrupt, abusive and illegal. President Trump is correcting the injustice Gallagher has been subjected to< p>

34 posted on 11/23/2019 9:23:14 AM PST by rdcbn ( Referentia)
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To: Bull Snipe

PS - The SecNav has EVERY right to contact President Trump IN PRIVATE and explain his opposition. He has the right to seek clarification - in private. He has no right to complain to the media or say he won’t obey what he believes Trump requires of him.


35 posted on 11/23/2019 9:23:38 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Mr Rogers

Fire his azz


36 posted on 11/23/2019 9:27:25 AM PST by Renegade
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To: Mr Rogers

On the Nixon tapes, the President is heard talking with Haldeman about a new choice for Navy Secretary: “Hell, any as***** can do that job - we even had John Warner doing it”. Looks like Trump found an even bigger as***** in this jerk Spencer. I really don’t care how this goes over at the Pentagon - they need to follow civilian authority or get their pompous butts out of there.


37 posted on 11/23/2019 9:29:02 AM PST by laconic
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To: Mr Rogers

Green needs to be reminded who his boss is.


38 posted on 11/23/2019 9:30:19 AM PST by bgill
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To: Mr Rogers

“.The Navy responded with a statement saying it would follow ‘lawful orders’ from the president”

Oh, Trump should take this opportunity to give this mutineer a lawful order. Summon him to the White House. Tell him to go bring you a cup of coffee. Tell him no cream or sugar. Then after he brings it, tell him all proceedings against the SEAL are over. Ask if he has any questions.


39 posted on 11/23/2019 9:31:03 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Aria

It’s gotten a lot better but he still has too many people with bad views whispering in his ear saying what they think is the right thing to do


40 posted on 11/23/2019 9:33:57 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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