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John F. Kennedy shot. What did he & others warn America?
American Minute ^ | 11/23/2019 | William Federer

Posted on 11/23/2019 7:15:14 AM PST by stars & stripes forever

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To: Hot Tabasco

Very convincing and logical. Bookmarked.


61 posted on 11/23/2019 10:48:01 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (Seek you first the kingdom of God, and all things will be given to you.)
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To: grumpygresh
Re: Probability..

I agree, statistical improbability bordering on impossibility. HOWEVER, from what I've read and heard, Agent George Hickey was NOT one of the front line agents responsible for protecting Kennedy. ALLEGEDLY he was given the AR-15 because MOST of the other agents had partied (DRUNK) the night before and were hung over. Hickey was one of the only agents who was sober the day of the assassination, SUPPOSEDLY.

If you haven't seen it, the documentary "JFK; SMOKING GUN" is one heck of a compelling documentary that carefully examines the evidence at hand. The 'head shot' round was a frangible round, definitely NOT the same ammo as the prior 2 or 3 shots fired by Oswald.

62 posted on 11/23/2019 11:09:27 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: Reynoldo
JFK didn’t stare anyone down over the Soviet missiles in Cuba. In fact, the whole situation demonstrated how utterly inept and dishonest his administration and their propagandists in the media were. Your post actually reinforces the point I made in my prior post.

1. The Cubans asked the Soviets to put those missiles there as a deterrent against the U.S. after the failed Bay of Pigs invasion of 1961.

2. The Soviets didn’t just remove those missiles under pressure from the U.S. It was part of a negotiated agreement where the Soviets removed their intermediate-range missiles from Cuba, while the U.S. removed ours from Turkey.

It’s very telling that the Soviet concession was done with great fanfare, while the secrecy of the U.S. concession was a key condition of the agreement. This is because everyone in the highest ranks of the U.S. government knew that we had a TV character and a walking personality disorder as President, and it was critical to maintain the illusion of JFK’s competence and resilience for domestic propaganda purposes.

63 posted on 11/23/2019 12:13:34 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: Hattie

I used to be a conspiracy theorist but outgrew it. Two things I never saw resolved though. Why wasn’t Oswald thrown in jail when he came back to the USA from Russia? He had a security clearance when he was a Marine. Accounts vary on what type.

Several witnesses at Jack Ruby’s place were ignored by the FBI when they insisted that Ruby knew Oswald.


64 posted on 11/23/2019 12:27:25 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Is it Hil)
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To: elcid1970

I wonder if JFK tapped her as well when Jackie wasn’t home.


65 posted on 11/23/2019 12:48:36 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing about liberals.)
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Soupy Sales was the assassin.


66 posted on 11/23/2019 1:01:15 PM PST by donaldo
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To: donaldo

Don’t forget:
George Wallace announced his Democrat candidacy for president a week before the shooting. A six-month primary battle would have split the party and helped the Republicans.
As vice-president, Johnson would have been sidelined. Johnson knew Wallace would go third-party if he didn’t get the Democrat nomination.
This was Johnson’s only chance to be president and blunt the Wallace and GOP challenges.


67 posted on 11/23/2019 1:42:30 PM PST by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.9we)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

That being the early 1960s, Nancy Pelosi’s father, the Mafia mayor of Baltimore, would have given her “the talk” about the Kennedys and other playboys. He probably warned the playboys too.
Nobody sane screwed with the Mafia.


68 posted on 11/23/2019 1:48:37 PM PST by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.9we)
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To: grumpygresh

I put quotations around the phrase deep state because the KJB does not meet the current definition, but it is analogous. I used the second set of quotes because like Trump’s collusion there IS no evidence of conspiracy in the death of JFK.


69 posted on 11/23/2019 2:16:46 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Albion Wilde

Like Trump’s critics, I guess supposition and inference is better than actual evidence.


70 posted on 11/23/2019 2:18:16 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Biggirl

Did you take your meds today?


71 posted on 11/23/2019 4:07:23 PM PST by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by jury nullification.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Kennedy was looking to remove the Jupiters anyway. They were there as a stopgap until more reliable ICBM’s were online. Remember, the Jupiters were liquid fueled using liquid oxygen, where the launch site required cryogenic equipment. They were above ground. The Soviets knew exactly where they were, in fact a Bulgarian reconnaissance MiG overflew the Jupiter site in Italy.
Also consider during the timeline that the Polaris submarines were coming online. Each with 16 missiles, solid fueled, and versus a fixed site, well, where are the submarines. It forced the Soviet Navy to shift its emphasis to ASW.
Then we get to the real reason why Khrushchev removed the missiles. Fidel Castro and Che Guevara suddenly became loose cannons. They wanted to take control of the missiles and warheads and launch them, starting World War 3. Khrushchev nearly crapped his pants, knowing full well that the result would have been a disaster.
So I would suspect that Kennedy may have known about it, and offered to remove the Jupiters so Khrushchev would save face. Cuba was one of the reasons Khrushchev was eventually removed from power.
Meanwhile Admiral Gorschkov was probably asking “Now where are those American SSBN’s?”


72 posted on 11/24/2019 4:53:35 AM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: stars & stripes forever
"Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their countrymen. ~ President John F. Kennedy

That is not a Kennedy quote. It's a typing drill.

73 posted on 11/24/2019 12:34:02 PM PST by mlo
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To: jonrick46

You know the whole “transvestite” thing was Soviet disinformation, right? Not to mention, use your head, I’m doubtful the mob would be that stupid to try and kill the President in the middle of a really bad time like, I don’t know, escalating hostilities between the Soviets and the Americans, as well as the all-too-real possibility of nuclear war (especially when the Communists most likely would have them shot as Capitalists). Not to mention, if they didn’t dare try to have FDR assassinated for practically destroying their primary source of income by repealing the 18th amendment, it’s extremely unlikely they would have tried to risk killing JFK while he was still in office. Now, maybe if he was out of office, they could try to lay a finger on him. And do I REALLY need to point out that Hoover was as anti-communist as they come? I’m really doubtful he’d willingly work with a known communist like LHO to kill JFK (especially not after the two worked together alongside McCarthy to take down several communists in government or die trying).

And while I am all too aware of just how much of a monster LBJ was, I’m extremely doubtful that even HE would have risked committing nuclear war just to get an easy way into the presidency (for goodness sakes, he refused to give sensible strategies of actually confronting the North Vietnamese because he was too scared of repeating what happened in China during the Korean War). Besides, the concept of the president having a line of succession in the event of being killed prematurely was not implemented into the constitution until AFTER JFK’s assassination, anyway.


74 posted on 01/15/2020 4:35:24 AM PST by otness_e
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To: grumpygresh

Well, maybe not a lone shooter, but I do still suspect the USSR or at least Cuba of being the ones actually responsible. You have to admit, it’s very suspicious that literally hours after the assassination, they started an explicit disinformation campaign, especially for an event they supposedly “weren’t involved in”.

Not sure about Deep State being responsible, though. If anything, it would be in their best interests to keep JFK alive especially after JFK mentioned that their pet project the United Nations is the only alternative to war.


75 posted on 01/15/2020 4:48:51 AM PST by otness_e
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To: otness_e
For an outstanding examination of the assassination of JFK:

Blood Money and Power

by Barr McClellan

76 posted on 01/15/2020 4:53:06 AM PST by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: jonrick46

I would suggest you read Ion Mihai Pacepa’s book Disinformation. That’s actually even MORE valuable since he’s had actual experience in the Eastern Bloc’s disinformation campaigns, including Operation Dragon.


77 posted on 01/15/2020 6:05:31 AM PST by otness_e
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To: namvolunteer

That being said...JFK might still have had a fling with her anyway. Admittedly, she was kinda cute...back then. WAY back then.


78 posted on 01/15/2020 6:17:09 AM PST by hoagy62 (America Supreme!)
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