Posted on 11/22/2019 12:32:02 PM PST by SeekAndFind
This writer is a moron. I don’t think there was a crime so there should be no impeachment at all.
But, I don’t care if Donald Trump physically beat the president of Ukraine up after tying him to a chair. Until the demnonrats start holding themselves to the same standards they demand of Republicans I don’t care. There is no rule of law while demonrats don’t go to jail.
There is no rule of law while Antifa is not prosecuted.
While The PIAPS and her husband still walk free there is no justice.
If the demonrats want me to care they need to clean their own house first and imprison, exile and execute several 1000 of the felons on the DNC payroll.
Well, not quite - when the 'rats flipped the house in 2018, THEN it was a sure thing. They have been promising and harping on this since then, searching for a reason. When they couldn't find one, they made one up.
I agree with the article.
After these hearings, I don’t think that even Mitt Romney could vote against Trump if this ever gets to the Senate.
The only way that the democrats can get out of this hole is for every democrat member of the House that comes from a red or purple state to vote against impeachment.
If independents are 49-34 against and Trump has a 93% positive rating among Republicans, are they polling 75% democrats to get to 43% wanting him impeached?
Impeachment was and continues to be a fool’s errand, when the prosecution fails to make a credible case, and in fact, much exculpatory evidence is constantly burying the original accusations.
Trump Derangement Syndrome is a very real and troublesome thing, feeding on nothing except raw emotion and willful ignorance. Plus, Adam Schiff (and Jerry Nadler before him) failed at even rudimentary persuasion. They are steadily losing even the base they started with.
this important nugget at the end of the article is very important - we've seen a sea-change in the GOP defense of Trump.
It might be best if they do impeach Trump, which will of course be DOA in the Senate, because after winning re-election and accomplishing even more of his MAGA agenda and being recognized as one of the most effective Presidents ever, it will take the stigma out of the word “impeachment”.
Bill Clinton already started this and pretty well succeeded, those who don’t like him do so because of his actions, not because he was impeached. Look at the facts and you’ll see that impeachment by the House only helped him - improving his public popularity and making him wealthy.
Trump is already wealthy, he still will be after he leaves office. Those who don’t like him will still be falsely accusing him of being a racist, sexist, etc - not because he was impeached in a kangaroo court on the weakest grounds and soon thereafter, re-elected.
It’s kind of like what has happened with the “F word”. It no longer has the shock value and instead of being embarrassed to say it, people are proud to do so.
Maybe future Presidents will consider being impeached by leftist morons to be a badge of honor, that they are doing the right thing.
RE: It might be best if they do impeach Trump,
I think they will for the following reasons:
1) They’ve come too far to back out now. Without a vote for impeachment, they will just be embarrassed for wasting the country’s time. So, they have to push through.
2) It will be a partisan vote with Democrats voting to impeach and Republicans voting not to. Some Democrats will join the Republicans, but the numbers are just not there to prevent impeachment. Dems have to do this to satisfy their rabid base. They have to do this so as to at least show them that they’ve tried.
But as you said, and I’ll add, other than Mitt Romney and Murkowsky possibly turning traitor (I don’t think Susan Collins will join), it will be DEAD in the Senate.
The path to impeachment is a transparently partisan political operation.The question the Democrats have to ponder is, what if during the “trial” the Senate Republican majority behaves the way the House Democrats claimed they were behaving - and at similar length?
Imagine if the Republican Senators proclaim that they can’t vote until they understand - until the public understands - how the Mueller investigation and the Schiff “investigation” even started, and how they proceeded and the consequences to individuals and to the country.
Bump
Sorry you feel that way!
Mollie is a staunch conservative and Trump supporter!
Sorry grobdriver, my post was meant for Fai Mao.
Patriots won because they’re supporting winner PDJT.
Mollie Hemingway is the only one who’s had the nerve to mention Eric Ciaramella on Fox News.
Agree.
Pelousi will canvass her rats and find too many “noes” for impeachment.
I doubt she’ll find enough to even censure the President.
Trump fully expected to be impeached when the (D)'s took over and he has planned his counter attack accordingly long ago. Timing is everything, and I think the reason the Horowitz report has been delayed has in part been due to another famous Trump 3-D chess strategy.
The Shiff Show has been a blow out disaster for the (D)'s and any (D)'s that vote to impeach Trump based on the findings of the Shiff Show will suffer on that basis alone. Trump's polls rise, (D)'s calls for impeachment sink. This is 3-D Strategy #1 successfully played.
Strategy 2 can be played whether House impeaches or not. Senate can do its own investigation and call witnesses. Since House set precedent for doing so, Senate can do their own investigation led by Graham. In any event Senate investigation provides the forum for opening the Horowitz can of whoop ass.
In the background - quietly - is John Durham's criminal investigation -- the guy who actually prosecutes what Horowitz and he have discovered. Add to this the recent Ukraine-led indictment of the Burisma clan. No telling what their discovery has uncovered Together this can effectively set up the prosecution of the entire Ukraine conspirators: Biden - Kerry - Pelosi - under terms of the treaty signed in 1999 by Bill Clinton. This is truly "3-D" strategy -- a Trilateral Prosecution from which the Deep State Dept (or any of the Vindman/whistleblower "Oba-moles") will not escape.
Strategy 3: BiteMe bites the dust, but recall what he said in his quid-pro-quo call that he bragged about at the CFR:
“I had gotten,” he added, “a commitment from [President] Poroshenko and from [Prime Minister] Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn’t. So they said they had — they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to — or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, ‘you have no authority. You’re not the president.’”
“The president said — I said, call him,” Mr. Biden replied, evoking, the CFR transcript notes, laughter.
(Quoted from ‘Well, Son of a Bitch’ : Ukraine Scandal Is About Biden --- Editorial of The New York Sun | September 25, 2019) Call who, BiteMe? Who is "him"?
You mean Obama was personally in on this racket too? As a sitting President? Only a full investigation will reveal this, right?
Strategy 4: Investigation into Obama gets to go anywhere ... just like it did with Mueller against Trump. Columbia U may be getting a call and a subpoena. Trump has a score to settle from an investigation which for him started back in 2011 with the phony birth certificate. Lots of Deep Staters covered for this prick, never mind re-opening Hillary's 33000 scrubbed eMails and Benghazi weapons trafficking cover-up. Might even open up pedo "Liddle" Adam Schiff's connections to the child trafficking cabal in WeHo at the Standard Hotel, hmmmmm?
Who says you can't impeach a President retro-actively for crimes committed during his Presidency?
You see where I am going with this?
FReegards!
The Democrat question puts a strawman in a question that is easy to answer. The strawman is not relevant to the answer. But by answering the question, the witnesses, both R and D, legitimize the strawman.
There are two battle fronts (maybe more). One front is the legal front. A second front is the PR front. Just as many voters still believe that Russian Collusion existed because it was repeated so often, so the Ukranian Strawmen are getting legitimized.
Who is prepping these witnesses, not to the relevant substance, but to the strawmen that are being legitimized?
Sorry, I disagree with your post.
Mollie Hemingway is one of the smartest journalists out there.
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