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NBC News Analysis: Officials handed the House a pile of evidence for impeachment
NBC "News" ^ | November 22, 2020 | By Jonathan Allen (D-NBC)

Posted on 11/22/2019 12:03:05 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Analysis: Yet, as Democrats move toward a pre-Christmas vote, they still find a wall of Republican loyalists at President Donald Trump’s side.

President Donald Trump presented little in the way of defense in the opening phase of his impeachment proceedings.

He refused to give Congress documents. He ordered subordinates to defy subpoenas. And he issued blanket proclamations of his innocence, over Twitter and in exchanges with reporters, without testifying under oath on Capitol Hill.

Meanwhile, as Democrats moved one step closer to a House floor vote on impeachment that they expect to hold before Christmas, a string of current and former administration officials collectively described for the House Intelligence Committee over the last two weeks how the president directed a concerted effort to aid his own re-election efforts at the expense of U.S. national security interests.

Specifically, they said he deployed several Cabinet officials, White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani on a mission to force Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to announce probes of former Vice President Joe Biden and a discredited theory that his own country framed Russia for interfering in the 2016 election, withholding $391 million in taxpayer dollars and a White House meeting to aid that effort.

"The question for impeachment is abuse of power," said Kim Wehle, a professor at the University of Baltimore School of Law who worked on independent counsel Kenneth Starr's investigation of President Bill Clinton.

"There is no Trump narrative laying out a legitimate public policy rationale for how the president, through Giuliani, treated Ukraine — by refusing a meeting and withholding aid needed to fight Russia — other than entrenching his own power."

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election2020; jonathanallen; journalism
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The “evidence”?

Trump wanted Ukraine to investigate poltical collusion in 2016 between the DNC, the Hillary campaign and certain Ukraine officials, seeking to damage the Trump campaign? Yes. And that was a matter that deserved investigation.

Trump asked whether or not the stories that Joe Biden’s demand for removal of a Ukriane prosecutor was looked into for possible conflict of interest due to an investigation at the time of a Ukraine company whose board of directors included Biden’s son. Yes. And regardless of whether or not Joe Biden was running for office, or not, that matter deserved looking into as well.

That Trump wanted either of those things was a responsible question for any U.S. president in 2019, whether that were Trump or not and whether or not Joe Biden was running for office in 2020.

All that was shown was that Trump wanted those things, did not demand them, did not make a quid pro quo about them, and did not seek any particular outceom of those thimgs, only, in lieu of them being allegations of corruption in Ukraine that they be looked into.

The Democrats have nothing, and particular nothing impeachable.


21 posted on 11/22/2019 12:17:32 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Pedo Schitt is the one who should be investigated!


22 posted on 11/22/2019 12:17:57 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (I'm triggered by liberals and other assorted moonbats.)
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To: KavMan

They are going to get crushed in 2020, Pelosi, and Shciff should be in jail.


23 posted on 11/22/2019 12:18:31 PM PST by cowboyusa (America Cowboy Up)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
These retards live within their own reality bubble and really do believe the majority of Americans are stupid enough to believe their delusional fantasies.

Or perhaps they're so faultily programmed with illogical beliefs that they just don't know what else to do. Honesty is unknown to these freaks.

NPC’s indeed.

24 posted on 11/22/2019 12:18:46 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: gibsonguy

Wow! Just damn WOW!! EFFIN mediaVOMITS!! You know Hong Kong showed the world how to bring down a news outlet!!


25 posted on 11/22/2019 12:19:24 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: kiryandil

The Republicans can’t afford to lose 20% of their base.
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90%

If the GOP assists in removing President Trump, they are finished as a party.


26 posted on 11/22/2019 12:19:34 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Oh so the Democrats call that a big pile of evidence do they? I call it a big pile of Schiff!


27 posted on 11/22/2019 12:19:55 PM PST by teletech
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To: euram

Schittforbrains had a EPIC melodramatic meltdown in his closing statement yesterday.

He ranted like a hysterical menopausal woman having night sweats and hot flashes.

Yes, he was about to burst into tears LOL!!!


28 posted on 11/22/2019 12:20:02 PM PST by RooRoobird20 ( "Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves”)
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To: euram

Their media puppetmasters do not think the pile of evidence is anything that would stand up in a court of law but they do think that their enemies must be destroyed and facts, being against them, are not admissible as rebuttal or as evidence in their own right.


29 posted on 11/22/2019 12:22:17 PM PST by arthurus (,/'o'\, --)
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To: Pox

President Trump’s numbers continue to go up. You Gov poll has him at 28 percent! Black support today!


30 posted on 11/22/2019 12:23:00 PM PST by cowboyusa (America Cowboy Up)
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To: cld51860

presenting a defense to this crap legitimizes it


31 posted on 11/22/2019 12:23:02 PM PST by arthurus (,/'o'\, --,|')
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You mean the ‘debunked’ theory that President Trump bribed Ukraine?


32 posted on 11/22/2019 12:29:00 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If we were actual patriots, we’d all be in DC perp walking these sonsaguns out of the Capitol. That’ll never happen, though. Americans have accepted peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom.


33 posted on 11/22/2019 12:29:25 PM PST by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Like Oboogaloocare, ya gotta vote to impeach before you see the evidence.<\p>


34 posted on 11/22/2019 12:30:07 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yo MORONS that you mindlessly hate the President is not an impeachable offense. Keep talking morons. Pretty soon your audience will be just you collection of mindless political bigots talking to each other. . That why you get poll results like this. You can’t hardly get 67% of the US to agree on anything, but they agree on this. You in the Fake news are lying scum

https://bongino.com/poll-majority-say-media-helping-to-impeach-trump/


35 posted on 11/22/2019 12:31:32 PM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: Red Badger

I always wondered what it was like to read Pravda.


36 posted on 11/22/2019 12:33:05 PM PST by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: ActresponsiblyinVA
I always wondered what it was like to read Pravda.

You've read the New York Times, right?

37 posted on 11/22/2019 12:33:48 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The only Real Evidence for Impeachment is for Impeaching Obama and Biden as well as Criminal Prosecution for Extortion and Bribery.


38 posted on 11/22/2019 12:34:05 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yeah. A big ol’ pile of SCHITT.


39 posted on 11/22/2019 12:34:30 PM PST by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON.)
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To: ActresponsiblyinVA

Pravda is actually pretty good!.................

https://www.pravdareport.com/


40 posted on 11/22/2019 12:35:21 PM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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