Posted on 11/16/2019 11:57:31 PM PST by Zhang Fei
HONG KONGFor months now, Ive been told that Hong Kongs protests would end soon. Theyll end when school starts, I heard during the summer. School did start, but the protests wore on, only now I saw high-school students in crisp school uniforms joining the protesters ranks. Next, the mask ban of early October was supposed to slow protesters down, but the very first day after that ban, I watched streams of protesters in masks and helmets make their way to their usual haunts on Hong Kong Island.
The government shut down many of the subway lines that day, a practice that has become a de facto curfew, because Hong Kongs über-efficient subway system is the way most people get around. No matter; the protesters ended up walking, sometimes a lot, and I walked with them, asking some of the same questions I had asked for months: Do you think you will continue protesting? What would it take for you to stop?
One of the most popular chants in Hong Kong is Five demands, not one less. These include the full withdrawal of the anti-extradition bill, which originally sparked the protests in June; an independent commission to investigate police misconduct; retracting the riot charges against protesters; amnesty for arrested protesters; and, crucially, universal suffrage.
Nothing animates the Hong Kongers Ive been talking with as much as that final demand. Yesterday, the police shot one protester in the stomach at point-blank range, and another police officer drove into the protesters with his motorcycle, weaving into the crowd to circle back again. Later in the day, Hong Kongs chief executive, Carrie Lam, gave a press conference and, in chilling language, called the protesters the enemy of the people. She was voted into office by 777 people from the 1,200-person Election Committee,
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The more I read about Eisenhower, the more I realize how rotten he was. Folks forget that he eviscerated the Republican Party when he was President, and it took 40 years to repair the damage (by which time, the damage done to the nation was incalculable).
https://twitter.com/ThomasVLinge/status/1196069105633243139
I have been impressed by the restraint and professionalism of the regular Hong Kong police in videos I've seen. The State of California used pay me more than $100k a year to review police firearms incidents. The HK police shooting of one protestor was justifiable by federal and California state law.
oops, should have been “used to pay me”.
Trump is doing what is our best defense against the Chinese threat to America. That threat is economic. If the Chinese invade Taiwan tomorrow his response should be 100% economic. I care as much about what Chinese do to Chinese as the Chinese would care if Alberta invaded North Dakota.
Confucius say: He who interferes in other's fights often wipes a bloody nose.
This fight is Hong Kong socialists vs. China communists. The USA shouldn't get involved. Despite China stealing Karl Marx's intellectual property and not paying any royalties for it, the Chinese version of communism will implode under its own power just like all other communist reigns of terror.
It ain’t imploded, yet. Although I understand Nixon’s reasoning behind it at the time, I think it was an error in the long run to open up China as he did (although Truman bears the greatest responsibility, since he could’ve helped to defeat Mao).
[A group of peasant soldiers was marching somewhere in China long ago.
“What’s the penalty for arriving late?”
“Death.”
“What’s the penalty for rebelling?”
“Death.”
“Hey brothers! I got news for you! We’re late!” ]
The overly-neat, tied-up-with-a-ribbon, parable-driven nature of Chinese historical narrative makes me suspicious as to whether the events described actually happened, but the “calling a deer a horse” loyalty test always gave me a kick, regardless of the truth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhao_Gao#Calling_a_deer_a_horse
Its analog in the recent past would be this passage from the Solzhenitsyn’s Gulag Archipelago:
[ At the conclusion of the conference, a tribute to Comrade Stalin was called for. Of course, everyone stood up (just as everyone had leaped to his feet during the conference at every mention of his name). ... For three minutes, four minutes, five minutes, the stormy applause, rising to an ovation, continued. But palms were getting sore and raised arms were already aching. And the older people were panting from exhaustion. It was becoming insufferably silly even to those who really adored Stalin.
However, who would dare to be the first to stop? After all, NKVD men were standing in the hall applauding and watching to see who would quit first! And in the obscure, small hall, unknown to the leader, the applause went on six, seven, eight minutes! They were done for! Their goose was cooked! They couldnt stop now till they collapsed with heart attacks! At the rear of the hall, which was crowded, they could of course cheat a bit, clap less frequently, less vigorously, not so eagerly but up there with the presidium where everyone could see them?
The director of the local paper factory, an independent and strong-minded man, stood with the presidium. Aware of all the falsity and all the impossibility of the situation, he still kept on applauding! Nine minutes! Ten! In anguish he watched the secretary of the District Party Committee, but the latter dared not stop. Insanity! To the last man! With make-believe enthusiasm on their faces, looking at each other with faint hope, the district leaders were just going to go on and on applauding till they fell where they stood, till they were carried out of the hall on stretchers! And even then those who were left would not falter
Then, after eleven minutes, the director of the paper factory assumed a businesslike expression and sat down in his seat. And, oh, a miracle took place! Where had the universal, uninhibited, indescribable enthusiasm gone? To a man, everyone else stopped dead and sat down. They had been saved!
The squirrel had been smart enough to jump off his revolving wheel. That, however, was how they discovered who the independent people were. And that was how they went about eliminating them. That same night the factory director was arrested. They easily pasted ten years on him on the pretext of something quite different. But after he had signed Form 206, the final document of the interrogation, his interrogator reminded him:
Dont ever be the first to stop applauding.]
[The more I read about Eisenhower, the more I realize how rotten he was. Folks forget that he eviscerated the Republican Party when he was President, and it took 40 years to repair the damage (by which time, the damage done to the nation was incalculable).]
I can’t imagine why Hong Kongers would not want to make it easier to extradite their citizens to Gulagland were due process is a western fairy tale.
But honestly, I don’t care what the protests are about, eff the Chicoms. I wish HKers would drag their puppet government into the street and give them the Marie Antioniette treatment.
The British were pussies for giving it “back”.
I don’t blame the President for staying it out of it though, the trade negotiations are more important and words on our part aren’t going to effect anything.
Interesting...this particular reporter in Hong Kong, the gal with the Turkish name Zeynep Tufekci, reportedly had a lot to do with pushing the mask mandates in the US in April 2020...
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