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Watergate and The Trump Crisis
Vanity | November 14, 2019 | Jim Noble

Posted on 11/14/2019 1:26:02 PM PST by Jim Noble

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To: DoodleBob

Does that make Lincoln a socialist, then? I recall him doing similar stuff during the Civil War, including the implementation of what became our income tax.


81 posted on 11/14/2019 3:47:04 PM PST by otness_e
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To: Jim Noble
Trump's proper defense is "[EXPLETIVE DELETED]!"

-PJ

82 posted on 11/14/2019 3:47:50 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: sauropod

Bkmk


83 posted on 11/14/2019 4:22:15 PM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is mine)
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To: Segovia

https://www.watergate.com


84 posted on 11/14/2019 4:23:49 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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To: dragnet2
Watergate was a Media Coup

And big media is the communications division for deep state. Deep state controls the news/communications. When the CIA destabilized or covertly aided in the process of destabilizing/overthrowing countries in the past, it always attempts to seize and or control the media. It's an essential part of the process.

Yes, but it is not at all clear who controls who. Big Media is a Big Player.

85 posted on 11/14/2019 4:24:13 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: cowboyusa

https://www.watergate.com/military-spy-operation/secret-government


86 posted on 11/14/2019 5:21:27 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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To: otness_e

Not necessarily....see...if it took an Amendment for the income tax to be instituted, and if Lincoln jammed through an income tax without an Amendment, that would make him a Statist, not a Socialist.


87 posted on 11/14/2019 5:25:57 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^s)
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To: DoodleBob

Does it really make any real difference regarding whether or not he’s socialist or a statist? The whole income tax thing was pretty much a socialist ideal.

Besides, you want an idea of unrestrained freedom? Look at France during the French Revolution. There was absolutely no law and order there and just mob vigilanteism, and by extension, free because there was absolutely no order or law in place, and that was a very bad thing and arguably a precursor to socialism.


88 posted on 11/14/2019 5:30:42 PM PST by otness_e
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To: Jim Noble

Read “Silent Coup: The Removal of a President”.
The facts there tell a far different story and John Dean is the one who is the main guilty party trying to get possession of a little black book from DNC HQ with his girl friend’s name in it who was a Call Girl and that would be Maureen.


89 posted on 11/14/2019 5:30:52 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Texas Eagle

Yes he worked for Naval Intelligence before he became a reporter.


90 posted on 11/14/2019 5:31:35 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: PGR88

No I don’t think that was the first time, I think JFK’s killing was one also.


91 posted on 11/14/2019 5:33:29 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: otness_e
I'm not advocating for anarchism. I'm a huge fan of our Constitutionally-restrained democratic-republic. Mob rule isn't my idea of a good time.

But the fact remains that suspending habeus corpus and enacting an unconstitutional income tax emanates from a state vs individual preference. A socialist believes in state ownership of the modes of production. I agree there is likely overlap beteeen socialists and statists (I'd also argue there is overlap between "crony capitalists" and NeverTrumpers and statists). But one is not ipso facto the other.

92 posted on 11/14/2019 5:47:48 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^s)
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To: DoodleBob

I wouldn’t call our country a democratic-republic. If anything, that’s France, especially post-Revolution. We’re a Constitutional republic, and if anything, the Founding Fathers deliberately tried to avoid labeling our country a democracy. Besides, democracy IS mob rule.


93 posted on 11/14/2019 5:54:31 PM PST by otness_e
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To: otness_e

And just as an FYI, I’m also against anarchism (and unlike some political graphs, I refuse to list anarchism as being of the far right. Actually, I’d list it at the same place as totalitarianism, whether it be communism, fascism, Nazism, or any of that, that being on the far left).


94 posted on 11/14/2019 5:55:59 PM PST by otness_e
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To: otness_e

Federalist 10 is all about how a republic can be a check on factionalism begotten by democracy. But I never said we are a democracy. We directly elect our representatives yet the two wolves can’t outvote the one sheep on what’s for dinner.


95 posted on 11/14/2019 6:15:19 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^s)
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To: DoodleBob

You didn’t say we were a democracy, that is true, but you did say we were a democratic-republic, which we are not. We are strictly a Constitutional Republic.

And yeah, good thing for Federalist 10. Too bad Thomas Jefferson was against the Federalists.


96 posted on 11/14/2019 6:29:18 PM PST by otness_e
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To: Texas Eagle

Woodward was in communications in the Navy. Handled codes and sensitive intel. It’s widely assumed he was CIA after.


97 posted on 11/14/2019 6:48:09 PM PST by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: Segovia

:)


98 posted on 11/14/2019 8:05:12 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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