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Republicans discuss a longer Senate impeachment trial to scramble Democratic primaries
Washington Post ^ | Nov 13, 2019 | By Robert Costa, Michael Scherer and Seung Min Kim

Posted on 11/13/2019 8:18:25 PM PST by 11th_VA

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To: trebb

The real danger in the senate is the driving force is the deep state. The Alphabet agencies have been in control of the legislative branches for a while. Trump is the odd man out, and they have been trying to get rid of him unsuccessfully. It has taken three years to find SOME people he can put in charge. Trump does not have to worry about bad ink from the media. Every other senator and congresscritter has to worry what the agencies have on them. It may be more of a fight under the radar than we know.

DK


41 posted on 11/14/2019 4:47:48 AM PST by Dark Knight
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To: 11th_VA

Where are all those Hollywierd tweets crowing about the Peachment revelations? You know that thing went down in flames yesterday.


42 posted on 11/14/2019 5:37:04 AM PST by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: 11th_VA

Yertle the Turtle is many things, but he is not politically naïve.

He can read the polls that say Trump has 90+% approval ratings with Republican voters. If it gets to a trial he will I’m sure use it like a hickory switch to thrash the Dems about the head and neck.

More and more I think Rush is right in repeating Harold Ford’s predictions. Nancy is going to pull the plug on this over the weekend. No way they want a Senate trial.


43 posted on 11/14/2019 6:04:51 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Equine1952

Will anyone ask liddle Schiff about the liddle black boys he has diddled at The Standard?


44 posted on 11/14/2019 6:23:52 AM PST by Immolumentor
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To: 11th_VA

This, plus fiery cross examinations and an entirely different narrative trail showing “reasonable suspicion”
of the Bidens will be crushing for Democrats.

This counter punch will be devastating.


45 posted on 11/14/2019 7:29:57 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: flamberge
You don't think that the president has Due Process constitutional rights?

Not in an impeachment trial. This is not a court of law as we imagine such and is not bound by any rules of evidence or due process. It is a strictly political affair and can use any rules that the Senate wishes.

No it's not strictly a "political affair". Why do you think that?

The controlling authority is still the Constitution and of course the Fifth Amendment. And the enforcing authority is the Senators' affirmation that they uphold the Constitution. Could they get away with not upholding the Constitution and the Fifth Amendment during an impeachment? Yes. Does that mean they aren't supposed to uphold the Constitution and the Fifth Amendment. No it doesn't.

46 posted on 11/14/2019 8:41:15 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: JoSixChip

“Not true, mcconnell will make Trump focus and the actual articles of impeachment. Trump will be lucky if he can bring up biden at all. “

If the Chief Justice presides at the trial, even McConnell will have to back down if the Justice decides that Trump can have his witnesses.


47 posted on 11/14/2019 9:13:00 AM PST by mdmathis6
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If the Chief Justice presides at the trial, even McConnell will have to back down if the Justice decides that Trump can have his witnesses.

Chief Justice roberts? Besides, the procedure as I understand it from the clinton error is that the senate majority leader and minority leader get together and set the rules and boundaries before the start of the trial. The Chief Justice is only there to oversee the proceedings. mcconnell is not going to give Trump free reign to investigate anything he wants. Why do you think no one in the senate is looking into biden, clinton foundation, kerry's trips to Iran, cia, fbi, irs, the list goes on forever. But they had no problem spending over two years investigating russiagate and only from the get Trump perspective. Hell, they even investigated Trump's family in the senate. And how many senators have you seen come out and defend Trump over anything? This impeachment will not be any fairer in the senate then it was in the house. If it was anyone but a popular Trump, they would have been gone already.
48 posted on 11/14/2019 9:43:38 AM PST by JoSixChip (I'm an American Nationalist)
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To: JoSixChip

Nothing stopping the Senate from investigating the coup right now. Are they? Nope. McConnell is just making excuses for doing nothing right now. You can bet once the Senate trial starts his priority will not be be stopping the coup and absolving POTUS but rather protecting Collins, Gardner, etc.


49 posted on 11/14/2019 3:26:58 PM PST by lodi90
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To: FreeReign
No it's not strictly a "political affair". Why do you think that?

Because it is clearly not a judicial affair.

The hearings being run by the Democrats are a coup attempt using "Pretense-of-Law" for a very thin cover. Since when are opinions based upon 4th hand hearsay admissible as evidence of "high crimes and misdemeanors"? Since when was the right to cross-examination and the right to confront accusers eliminated? What exactly are those "high crimes and misdemeanors anyway?

The Democrats are running an open-ended fishing expedition under the principle of "Show me the man and I will show you the crime". The outcome of their "hearings" is predetermined and is some variation of "Orange Man Bad". Republicans foolish enough to attend are told to shut up and sit down. They are not allowed to do anything without permission from the Democrat Chairman.

Rule-of-Law is largely gone. We make a fatal mistake in believing that the Democrats will follow any rules at all. They certainly are not about to allow their opponents to defend themselves.

Senators commonly retire as multi-millionaires. Most of them did start out that way - and they did not make their fortunes from their salaries. It's a gravy train that all of them can ride, both Democrats and Republicans. They would like to keep that train running as long as they can.

If President Trump is impeached, the outcome will be decided by backroom deals that have nothing at all to do with legal arguments. The most important reason why there might not be a conviction, or even an impeachment, is the prospect that a number of politicians might wind up dangling from highway overpasses.

They have cut down the laws. What do they think will protect them from each other?

50 posted on 11/14/2019 6:06:09 PM PST by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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To: laplata

I’ve also seen reports that Ciaramella is linked to Brennan. Trump’s defense could link this entire effort to the failed Russian collusion plot.


51 posted on 11/14/2019 6:18:45 PM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

I believe it. I think the Rats don’t want a senate trial. What you heard is one reason why. They are scared to death of discovery and there would be tons of discovery in a trial.

The Rats are screwed in so many ways.


52 posted on 11/14/2019 8:25:38 PM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Dark Knight

Couldn’t agree more - and both sides have to worry about covering their butts or the swamp would be arable land by now.


53 posted on 11/15/2019 2:13:16 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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