Real Talk: Impeachment Is Going Poorly For Democrats And The Media

thefederalist ^ | NOVEMBER 5, 2019 | Mollie Hemingway

[MarvinStinson]

Todd knows that no Republicans voted for impeachment, despite the graphic he put up on national television.

[Russ]

The Senate Republicans could end this impeachment farce in two minutes if they had the backbone. However...

[rollo tomasi]

How?


Constitution gives the HOR the power to impeach, that is “it”. The Constitution provides no enumerations of processes that are required to be followed by the HOR. Dems control the HOR and can easily create an impeachment charge “out of thin air”, correspond that to a high crime or misdemeanor, and vote to impeach without one Republican LEGALLY objecting to the process.

[wastoute]

There are tens of millions of rifles that say Trump is staying right where he is.

[CIB-173RDABN]

Things are not always as they appear, especially when dealing with socialist.

At this point in time the Democrats are not expecting to remove President Trump from office (nor do I expect them to actually vote on article of impeachments).

The left have gone back to the 1970s Nixon years and hope to have a nightly news leak that will hurt President Trump in the 2020 election.

It worked for them in the 1970s because they were the gatekeeper of news. There was no real outlet for anyone that supported Nixon.

But this is not the 1970s, and while it is true they control major media outlets, they have two problems with this tactic. First, there are many more outlets for supporters to voice their support for the President, and second Trump is not Nixon, he will and does enter the trenches and fights back.

I actually see support of the President growing each day.

Keep in mind, the President has not unleashed the hounds from hell on the Democrats...yet.

[rollo tomasi]

Prove it.

Materialism runs rampant enough that many will just concede and vote in the next election to air their grievances. Impeachment is dead in the Senate anyway, however...

The 18th and 19th centuries did not have 3500 sq feet of heat and air conditioning houses, spas, pools, computers, Internet, retirement funds, college funds, fancy cars, day care, hi-tech health care, air planes that quickly take you to exotic locations, resort hotels, etc...

Americans do not have the guts, strategy, or the military hardware to engage/win an insurrection against the popular democrat platform. Heck, we barely have enough votes in a free election to repel the democrat platform.

[Montana_Sam]

All McConnell has to do is declare that the sham hearings the Democrats are holding:
in the dark (fact),
with no independent questioning of witnesses by Republicans (fact - Republicans are only allowed to ask 'Schiff approved' questions),
and no independent subpoena power (fact - Republicans are only allowed to subpoena 'Schiff approved' witnesses),
do not meet the Constitutional standard for proving high crimes and misdemeanors.
And, consequently, McConnell is going to hold a vote to quelch the impeachment as un-Constitutional.
Schiff and Pelosi will lose what's left of their tiny minds, and (hopefully) sue. The case will go immediately to the SCOTUS, which will have to decide.

[wastoute]

Glass half empty. The way I see it goes like this. This current government of the USA cannot address any of the multiple, country killing problems that face us. The Rats and the Brown Shirt Media have seen to that. For decades we have all seen this coming and done all we could to “turn the tide”. We have fought as hard as we could and essentially lost a War of Attrition. All of the “bread and circuses” you mention are true and relevant but as Ferfal demonstrated in his book it takes only 60 minutes for all that to be wiped away. There is an “inflection point” coming. I see it as “glass half full”. Why continue to try to win a losing battle? Lose it as quickly as possible and use that loss to set the stage for a “New Free Republic of America”.

[bert]

You are correct

Democrats should fear the fact that if there is no law, there is no law.

When the tipping point comes, their lawyers will have no value even if they are still alive

[rollo tomasi]

I follow the realist perspective (Pointing out barriers to arrive at solutions), I don't care how full the glass is.

There are ways, but this is neither the time (Figuratively and literally) or place (Definitely not over electronic networks) to discuss specific solutions to create any type of force that threatens violence.

We are still in the stage where politicians/the system can be voted out/changed and replaced by sane candidates/prosperous systems (Despite what Claire Wolfe wrote). Look at what Trump (One person) has done in international relations for instance.

Imagine what over 600 politicians/judges within the 3 Branches with the same vision as Trump can establish. For now, the peaceful solution is still within reach. Requires educating a talking calmly with people who put emotion over reason.

[VTenigma]

Keep in mind, the President has not unleashed the hounds from hell on the Democrats...yet.

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Will he ever? That should have been job one.

[gundog]

Not without thorough investigation. With any luck, many will turn on others to save their own hides.

[Liz]

POINTS TO PONDER:
<><> The impeachment inquiry is being conducted in secret, with heavy control from Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif..
<><> earlier Schiff went on TV 228 times claiming he had evidence of Trump’s treasonous collusion with Russia to steal the 2016 election.
<><> The inquiry is being handled by Schiff b/c Jerry Nadler messed up previous efforts WRT Robert Mueller, John Dean, and Corey Lewandowski.
<><> Nadler's botching the Mueller hearing was such a disaster that it more or less killed a multi-year effort put in place by Resistance bureaucrats and their supporters.
<><> Schiff tells witnesses not to answer questions when those questions would help Trump;
<><> Schiff has badgered and coached witnesses who were deemed insufficiently supportive of his efforts to undo the 2016 election.
<><> Schiff and the whistleblower both lied about their coordination prior to the complaint being filed.
<><>Schiff originally demanded the whistleblower’s testimony, and is now attempting to prevent the testimony b/c collusion has been outed.
<><> Schiff's hand-picked witnesses thus far can not point to a single crime, much less a high crime, for which to impeach the president.
<><> some cooperating witnesses like Vindam are livid over Trump's disagreement with their foreign policy views.

[lurk]

So far not a peep from Trump’s legal team on defense strategy. They could easily cross examine Nadler and shif and ciaramella.

[Lopeover]

Democrats are liars, cheats & grifters.

[CIB-173RDABN]

Will he ever? That should have been job one.

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Do you know anything about war?

After Pearl Harbor it was six months before the US could even attempt to do battle with Japan.

How long did it take for the Allies to build a force in England before D Day?

Timing is everything. President Trump came into office a relative unknown with no accomplishments. The Democrats and the media began attacking him 24/7 from day one (election) and has not stopped.

We now know that the DOJ, CIA, FBI and even White House staff were all working to undermine him.

So when and how was he to respond?

Three years in and President Trump can point to an improve economy, much improvement on our southern border, tax cuts as well as successes in foreign policy.

The Russian Hoax has been exposed, the Mueller report was a dud, this current Ukraine impeachment hoax is going to fail.

So while his enemies have grown weaker, the President has grown stronger. When the groundwork has been completed and the American people have been prepared for the truth about the conspiracy to overthrow our government, he will unleash the dogs from hell on them and they will have no defense.

[poconopundit]

Keep in mind, the President has not unleashed the hounds from hell on the Democrats...yet.

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An upbeat shot in the arm. Thanks, CIB.

[poconopundit]

So far not a peep from Trump’s legal team on defense strategy. They could easily cross examine Nadler and shif and ciaramella.

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Which means Trump is satisfied to be persecuted. It fuels his supporters. It’s a chess match and drama in one. One helluva a reality show.

[IndispensableDestiny]

The left have gone back to the 1970s Nixon years and hope to have a nightly news leak that will hurt President Trump in the 2020 election.

How so? The House Judiciary Committee passed articles of impeachment against Nixon. He resigned before those articles were debated and voted on in the full House. They would have passed. There were no "leaks" because the process was all out in in the open. It was 1974, Nixon had won re-election in 1972 (by a landslide) and was not up for another election. Without Watergate, Ford would have run, but it's not known if he would have received the nomination.

[vigilence]

Wrong. Read the Constitution. It says the House shall initiate impeachment, not the Speaker of the House. In order for the House to decide if impeachment is appropriate it must take a vote. This was not done. Pelosi unilaterally appointed Schiff in the House Intelligence Committee (instead of Nadler in the Judiciary Committee by House rules) to investigate Trump and then, after opposition, doubled down by voting to continue the unconstitutional process. If there is any doubt about the illegitimacy of this process why are those who have refused “subpoenas” not being referred to a Federal Court to compel appearance?