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FORTUNE: The S&P 500 Is at an All Time High—But Markets Still Performed Far Better Under Obama
Fortune ^ | 11/04/2019 | Erik Sherman

Posted on 11/04/2019 8:32:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Oh BS.

The stock market rises under Obama are a direct response to the undervalued stocks caused by his election in 2008 and then didn’t start until 2010 when Republicans took back the house.

Even then the market recovery was anemic compared to Trump.

This is outright lying with statistics to promote a political point (shocking I know)


21 posted on 11/04/2019 8:41:02 AM PST by Skywise
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To: kiryandil

Not to mention at the end of 8 years China was on the fast track to world dominance. Obama policies were not good for the country over the long run and anyone being honest can say that now (even if you couldn’t while it was happening)


22 posted on 11/04/2019 8:41:19 AM PST by wiseprince
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama had the benefit of an extremely oversold market that snapped back from 2009. I remember the financial shows screaming buy at the time.


23 posted on 11/04/2019 8:41:47 AM PST by brianr10
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To: SeekAndFind
Watch the pea under the thimble. It moves:

AThen we compared the same periods for both presidents: from inauguration on January 20 to Oct. 31 in their third year of office.

Because the market had already run up a long way before Trump was elected, the absolute numbers would be misleading. Instead, Fortune compared the performance under each president to his initial inauguration day to get an accurate comparison of growth under each.

SO it's fair to say "the market had already run up a long way before Trump was elected" which you could solve for by measuring from the day he was elected. But then they switch to saying they measured from "his initial inauguration day".

That's a conspicuous non-sequitur.

And this phony analysis is very typical of Democrat shills like Forbes.

The market is inherently forward looking. People buy a stock today based on the money they PREDICT it will make over the next several years. So when Trump was elected the market screamed up. Not because Obama gave the economy an extra special push in his last days in office but because investors believed that Trump would revive corporate earnings. Which he did in spades.

24 posted on 11/04/2019 8:42:03 AM PST by edwinland
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To: SeekAndFind
Really grasping at straws, aren’t they?

Tomorrow’s analysis: “Unemployment is at a 50-year low, and at record levels for blacks and Hispanics. But the job market was far better under Obama.”

25 posted on 11/04/2019 8:42:30 AM PST by daler
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To: sheehan

Brought to you by the same mindset that uses climate models...

Looks like they are now doing it to manipulate market indicators for the next election cycle.


26 posted on 11/04/2019 8:43:06 AM PST by Nuke From Orbit
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To: SeekAndFind

The Federal Reserve kept the Federal Funds rate essentially flat for nearly the entirety of Obama’s presidency. This was a great economic tailwind for him. The moment Trump came into office they started raising rates and continued to do so until late summer 2019.

https://www.macrotrends.net/2015/fed-funds-rate-historical-chart


27 posted on 11/04/2019 8:43:19 AM PST by Starboard
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To: SeekAndFind

“Because the market had already run up a long way before Trump was elected, the absolute numbers would be misleading. Instead, Fortune compared...”

Which means the markets shot up like a rocket as soon as Trump won the election and they wanted to that increase to O’Bastard, so they pulled something out of their ass and said ‘Orange man bad’.


28 posted on 11/04/2019 8:44:34 AM PST by Beagle8U (It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame.)
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To: gibsonguy
Just a rubbish analysis from a hack who actually knows better.

And a Democrat hack, at that.

I looked at his Twitter feed https://twitter.com/ErikSherman.

First page: Erik the DNC hack is retweeting Amee Vanderpool, renowned obnoxious partisan Democrat Twitter hacktivist.

29 posted on 11/04/2019 8:44:44 AM PST by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We CHOSE Trump.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t know if anyone remembers, but when Obama was president, the news was that there was a major disconnect between the markets and the economy. The economy was being drained and all those dollars were being thrown into the markets.


30 posted on 11/04/2019 8:46:09 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: wiseprince

comparing a bounce off the bottom following a crash, and piling on 50% to a top is apples and oranges


31 posted on 11/04/2019 8:46:13 AM PST by changeitback440
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To: SeekAndFind

This libtard writer gives Trumps election bump to Obama

Trump in 32 months is up around 12-1300 points on the S&P

Obama went from around 690 looks like to 1800 in 8 years

What a poppycock article


32 posted on 11/04/2019 8:48:18 AM PST by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course it looked good. Obama was pumping FUTURE TAX PAYER (BORROWED) MONEY into the financial markets at an exorbitant rate with his “Quantitative Easing” program. . . Propping up the bond markets for his financial backers on Wall Street. This freed money to be invested in the Stock Market.


33 posted on 11/04/2019 8:48:36 AM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: changeitback440

“Dead Cat Bounce” Obamao.


34 posted on 11/04/2019 8:49:17 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: SeekAndFind
A baseball analogy. If you are batting 0.100, it's easier to get a larger increase a day than a guy who is batting 0.350.
35 posted on 11/04/2019 8:50:36 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Kill-googl,TWTR,FCBK,NYT,WaPo,Hwd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antfa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA,ARP)
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To: SeekAndFind

Fortune has been bought and sold twice since 2017 - once to Merideth Publications who then sold it again to a Thai company.

They are down to few readers and even less subscribers. The magazine is given away free at trade shows to pump up fake circulation numbers.

No one cares what Fortune prints...


36 posted on 11/04/2019 8:51:59 AM PST by EC Washington
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To: sheehan
It is very fortunate that BHO was as psychologically damaged and conflicted as he was and is. A really well organized and focused and energetic leftist could have accomplished a lot more damage to the nation and destruction to the economy. BHO was very much like Gov Childs of Florida, when the going got tough he ran away. There was a reason BHO had to be practically dragged to the Tank from the golf course for the end of the Bin Ladin operation.
37 posted on 11/04/2019 8:52:01 AM PST by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: SeekAndFind

For anyone like me who was wondering, the numbers on the horizontal axes (yes, axes is the plural of axis) are the numbers of days in office.


38 posted on 11/04/2019 8:52:03 AM PST by be-baw
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To: SeekAndFind

3 years VS 8 years?


39 posted on 11/04/2019 8:52:50 AM PST by big bad easter bunny
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To: Gahanna Bob

“Completely ridiculous. Scale is essential for accurate visualization of a graph. Obama is 8 years, Trump is 3 or less.”

The graphs show the same number of days for Obama as they do for Trump.


40 posted on 11/04/2019 8:53:16 AM PST by FewsOrange
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