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FORTUNE: The S&P 500 Is at an All Time High—But Markets Still Performed Far Better Under Obama
Fortune ^ | 11/04/2019 | Erik Sherman

Posted on 11/04/2019 8:32:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Obama’s term started after a generational stock market crash when companies were selling as if the world was at an end. So yeah, all it took is for the panic selling to stop for the market to recover at a huge % rate!


61 posted on 11/04/2019 9:10:17 AM PST by winner3000
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To: TexasGator

Correcto-mundo - great point, TexasGator.


62 posted on 11/04/2019 9:13:51 AM PST by redfog
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s BS, when Obama took office the economy just bouncing off the biggest loss since the great depression, of course the percentage would be higher as the market had no place to go but up.


63 posted on 11/04/2019 9:15:35 AM PST by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE)
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To: kenmcg

Of course, it’s more of an indictment of W, then.


64 posted on 11/04/2019 9:17:25 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Will post more later, but as most here probably know, this is fanciful malarky.

First, there was a significant downturn in stocks coinciding with the election of and beginning of Obama’s presidency. I’m not blaming him for that, but it meant that just recovering to previous levels would make it look like he was rallying the stock market.

Second, the charts shown depict ‘percentage’ changes, which skews the data markedly. For example, if the Dow goes from 8000 to 9000 (it was in the 8000s when Obama was initially in office), that is a 12.5% increase. On the other hand, if the market goes from 26,000 to 27,000 (as it has during the Trump presidency), this is a 3.85% increase - even though the absolute points it has risen in the same period is the same.

There’s more, but suffice it to say that assessment shown is useless.


65 posted on 11/04/2019 9:18:16 AM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: SeekAndFind

8 years of 1-2% growth and now Obama was a great growth President? Lies...Damn lies...


66 posted on 11/04/2019 9:21:30 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Deep State crashed the market just before the 2008 elections, hoping to put sHrillary in the White House.

Unfortunately, two things happened: sHrillary lost the primary to Zero, and the Deep State overdid things and crashed it much farther than they intended.

So recovering from the worse Stock Market crash since 1929 isn't exactly praiseworthy for Zero.

That's my Conspiracy Theory and I'm sticking to it!

67 posted on 11/04/2019 9:26:15 AM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: sheehan

Thank God he was a lazy Marxist. He could’ve done a lot more damage than he did.


68 posted on 11/04/2019 9:35:11 AM PST by samadams2000 (Get your houses in order.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Dow’s 1-year gain since Trump’s win is its biggest post-Election Day rise since 1945”

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-dows-one-year-gain-since-trumps-election-is-its-biggest-since-1945-2017-11-08/


69 posted on 11/04/2019 9:39:54 AM PST by Beagle8U (It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bull

I’ve been in an S&P 500 Index fund for a long time, believe me, my returns on it were NOWHERE near what I have seen under Trump during the Obama or Bush years....


70 posted on 11/04/2019 9:42:39 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: wiseprince

Exactly.. I’ve made a better return in my SP500 Index fund in 3 years under Trump than 8 under Obama, total CRAP.


71 posted on 11/04/2019 9:44:09 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: SeekAndFind

Did you know the markets had multiple high after 1929 during the so-called Great Depression?


72 posted on 11/04/2019 9:46:17 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: HamiltonJay

See the post above yours.


73 posted on 11/04/2019 9:46:21 AM PST by Beagle8U (It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame.)
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To: I want the USA back

Any movement after election night 2016 is all Trump... and every honest person knows it.


74 posted on 11/04/2019 9:48:11 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: SeekAndFind

This graph is shit.

For one example, percentage increase over what?

Answer: percentage increase over garbage.

5.56mm


75 posted on 11/04/2019 9:48:24 AM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well since you made no comments regarding your post, mind reading is all that was available to me. So I thought I would probe you to get a response, since I actually suck at mind reading.


76 posted on 11/04/2019 9:48:42 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: wiseprince
The gigantic spike at the end of Obama’s term had absolutely nothing to do with Obama. That was all Trump and to pretend otherwise is a out and out lie

Nope. From the article: "...we compared the same periods for both presidents: from inauguration on January 20 to Oct. 31 in their third year of office.

At first I thought you were right, but then I noticed that the timelines only go through Day 700.

What's odd is that Oct. 31, 2019 (Trump's third year in office) is Day 1,014, about a full year after the Day 700 shown. 700 days is not even two full years in office. Something doesn't add up for these charts - they are missing 314 days of Year 3.

77 posted on 11/04/2019 9:49:17 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: kiryandil

Is that because the success you are having in the stock market? 8>)


78 posted on 11/04/2019 9:49:27 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Beagle8U

year one Over 20%, year two-5% (because of a late year drop), current year over 20% so far.... these people are comical... this is an article intended to be consumed by people who don’t invest, to provide a political talking point... anyone who’s remotely paying attention knows its crap


79 posted on 11/04/2019 9:49:57 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: kiryandil
more people are working.....more people are confident....we get better then 0.1% on savings....

stock market is NOT the economy......

plus, that big financial collapse was probably orchestrated by the deep state and its banks/corporations....

80 posted on 11/04/2019 9:51:18 AM PST by cherry
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