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Pffffttttt. South American injuns. Not our North American peaceful, loving, caring ones. :-)
1 posted on 11/02/2019 11:18:31 AM PDT by rktman
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This is why I never eat Indian Tacos.

You never know who might be in them.


26 posted on 11/02/2019 12:09:23 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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A group called "The People" were here in Southern Utah. This book contains 116 original images of this group. Members of the southern Paiute nation were instrumental in guiding John Wesley Powell in his exploration of the region from 1872-1875.By 1875 the Mormons who had been previously driven off by the Kaibab Band returned and took over the territory.


29 posted on 11/02/2019 12:11:45 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah: At the Maynard Dixon Home and Studio)
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What the aboriginal inhabitants of North and South America, commonly referred to as “Indians”, are today, came from vastly different origins themselves, some from Asia, some crossing the Pacific from the Melanesian archipelagos of Oceania, and even some few crossing what was then a land bridge covered with glacier from Europe, And they came in several different waves, some much later than others.

In the territorial area of the United States alone, there were some 400 or more distinct groups at the time of Columbus, many of whom undertook mutual battles of extinction with each others. Just consider the differences that were between the Navajo and the ancient cliff dwellers, known as the Anasazi. For centuries, perhaps, the Navajo harassed the Anasazi, until the Anasazi undertook an extermination program on the Navajo, catching them, killing them, cooking them and eating the stew, tossing away their bones. Even today, the Navajo speak in hushed tones, of “the old ones”, never referring to them openly, as the Anasazi cursed the Navajo for all eternity.

The Anasazi, it seems, did not survive to the present day, for only the ancient cliff dwellings attest to the fact they were ever here. They were supposedly related to the resent day Pueblo people, who now live peaceably with the Navajo.

Or consider the Cheyenne of Wyoming, who were subject to border raids by the neighbors, the Crow. In one dramatic confrontation at a mountain called Crow Heart, a band of young Crow males was captured by the Cheyenne, and the Cheyenne chief asked the Crows who their leader was. All the Crow willingly pointed him out, and he was brought before the Cheyenne chief. Upon affirming that he was, in fact, the leader, the chief plunged a knife into the chest of the young Crow, pulled out the still beating heart, and took a bite out of it. His mouth dripping with the blood of the unfortunate Crow, the chief turned to the rest of the Crow, and told them, go back and tell your people what you have seen here today.

The Crow never bothered the Cheyenne after that.

And these were just two incidents, among what must have been innumerable times when differences were settled with combat, or stealth, or downright treachery.


31 posted on 11/02/2019 12:22:05 PM PDT by alloysteel (Nowhere in the Universe is there escape from the consequences of the crime of stupidity.)
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We sacrifice more babies in America than were ever by pre Columbian Americans.


32 posted on 11/02/2019 12:22:26 PM PDT by Meatspace
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Yes they were. They were the happy children of the forest who sang and danced with animals who could also sing and dance.


33 posted on 11/02/2019 12:27:31 PM PDT by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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The Europeans weren’t an “evil people”, the Indians weren’t an “evil people”, they were just PEOPLE.


36 posted on 11/02/2019 12:40:36 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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In the US Indian organizations confiscate any finds and judges uphold the confiscations on the grounds of cultural sacraments or some non-sense. This stops all studies into these ancient sites that preliminary findings shown they nothing to do with their culture.

American Indians where not the natives of north America. The courts are helping bury this fact

37 posted on 11/02/2019 12:51:30 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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Lol


39 posted on 11/02/2019 1:00:37 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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"Not our North American peaceful, loving, caring ones. :-)"

LOL...and then there were the Atakapa tribe of Louisiana and Texas...........cannibals.

41 posted on 11/02/2019 1:16:31 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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Interesting...I have been to this area.

I worked on a mine project near this site...while building a new access road to the mine we were always finding graves and bones.
Had a radio call one day to come immediately to where the D8 was working...operator had a skull rolling around the cab of the dozer.


45 posted on 11/02/2019 2:04:03 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse (Never fear the cow)
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Will ping later.


48 posted on 11/02/2019 3:03:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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They hate Columbus Day because Columbus brought Christianity. No other reason.


52 posted on 11/02/2019 3:29:28 PM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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Only commies who want to undermine patriotism to the US claim the indians were innocent babes.

We called them savages for a reason.


53 posted on 11/02/2019 4:11:39 PM PDT by fruser1
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...in what experts say is likely the world's largest child-sacrifice site.

Evidently these 'experts' have not rummaged through the trash behind the Planned Parenthood building.

57 posted on 11/03/2019 4:54:45 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Truth — so bad for proggie and lefty propaganda.


63 posted on 11/03/2019 5:15:44 AM PST by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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I get a kick out of the ignorant common false consensus that none of these same atrocities ever happened in the old world. For every “savage” native American atrocity, I can source to an equal and like kind atrocity or practice by the “civilized” cultures in the old world. Should the Spartan destruction of newborns be the stereotypical example for all cultures in the old world? Of course not, neither should one or two cultures in the new world be the universal stereotypical example for all the new world tribes. It would be like stereotyping “all” white men as bad just because one or two white men committed a crime.

http://internetbiblecollege.net/Lessons/Killing%20Newborns%20In%20Ancient%20Greece%20And%20Rome.htm


64 posted on 11/03/2019 5:25:08 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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skeletal remains of 250 children and 40 warriors at the site,

Amateurs.

Modern-day commie Democrats in the USA have slaughtered 70 Million babies.

66 posted on 11/03/2019 5:36:14 AM PST by meadsjn
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Archaeologists digging around have found evidence of some form of human sacrifice/cannibalism in centuries past just about everywhere on the planet-since China guards their archaeological finds so carefully, we really don’t know if that stuff went on there-but I’ll bet real money that it did-humans were not gentle or nice in centuries past-we still aren’t-we allow the sacrifice of unborn humans to a woman’s “right to choose”-even though there is no famine from a drought , towns are not being pillaged and burned, women raped and slaughtered-but in some states the murder of an unwanted newborn can be approved by the “mother”...

Being Hispanic/Latino most of my ancestry is Spanish-but in the 400 or so years since those ancestors got on a ship and fled Spain, they weren’t shy about interbreeding/marrying with Native American women, from tribes in Mexico to the Apaches in Mexico, Texas and New Mexico when it was all Spanish territory-they were just working class ranchers and herders, free to partner with any woman they liked.

I don’t think either my Spanish ancestors or the Native ones were kind, caring or peaceful-they were equally savage, but the ones from Spain had more polished methods of torture and justified it all in the name of the Inquisition-but I don’t think Jesus had torture in mind as a tool to win converts...

Native Americans taught the Spanish some torture methods, Spanish taught some torture methods to the Natives-everybody burned, scalped and beheaded each other, and the Karankawas on the Texas coast were practicing cannibalism into the early 1800’s-none of that sounds civilized to me-I can’t imagine that level of cruelty-I don’t even have the urge to burn a few witches...


72 posted on 11/03/2019 1:05:36 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys-you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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So I guess these Injuns had something in common with the Irish nuns: http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/order-nuns-dumped-up-800-9979348


80 posted on 11/03/2019 6:16:04 PM PST by Clemenza
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Ah, but the libs insist that these “noble savages” must be forgiven for their sins, but white people?

Never.


90 posted on 11/04/2019 4:33:37 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The Electoral College is the firewall protecting us from massive blue state vote fraud.)
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