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Why America needs a hate speech law
Washington Post ^ | October 29, 2019 | Richard Stengel

Posted on 10/30/2019 4:36:36 AM PDT by C19fan

When I was a journalist, I loved Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.’s assertion that the Constitution and the First Amendment are not just about protecting “free thought for those who agree with us but freedom for the thought that we hate.” But as a government official traveling around the world championing the virtues of free speech, I came to see how our First Amendment standard is an outlier. Even the most sophisticated Arab diplomats that I dealt with did not understand why the First Amendment allows someone to burn a Koran. Why, they asked me, would you ever want to protect that?

It’s a fair question. Yes, the First Amendment protects the “thought that we hate,” but it should not protect hateful speech that can cause violence by one group against another. In an age when everyone has a megaphone, that seems like a design flaw.

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but it should not protect hateful speech that can cause violence by one group against another.

Aka Hecklers' Veto.

Let the debate begin. Hate speech has a less violent, but nearly as damaging, impact in another way: It diminishes tolerance.

As in quoting the Bible on sexual mores.

As I expected the man reeks of elite credentials: Princeton and Oxford educated including Rhodes scholar. The most ironic item is he led the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia. Now he wants to eviscerate the Bill of Rights.

1 posted on 10/30/2019 4:36:36 AM PDT by C19fan
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Wonderful. Then anyone who reads or recites the koooran would be thrown in jail.


2 posted on 10/30/2019 4:39:01 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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In an age when everyone has a megaphone, that seems like a design flaw.

My God, the riff riff are piping up!! Can't have that!

3 posted on 10/30/2019 4:40:43 AM PDT by Flick Lives (MSM, the Enemy of the People since 1898)
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To: C19fan

This guy wrote a book called “Information Wars: How We Lost the Global Battle Against Disinformation and What We Can Do About It”

Very anti-Trump.


4 posted on 10/30/2019 4:41:04 AM PDT by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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To: I want the USA back

This person can go #### themselves.

As I get older, I feel I have less to lose.

I WANT everything to become civil again.

I would LOVE that. A congress and people who disagree and get heated but respect each other and have discourse to solve problems.

Doesn’t look like that’s gonna be.

2 things aren’t happening.

NO MOTHER ####ER IS TOUCHING MY GAS GUZZLING CHALLENGER.

And NO ONE is telling what I can or can’t say.

I don’t care if 50,000 ####ing people hear it. And it’s awful.


5 posted on 10/30/2019 4:41:18 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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but it should not protect hateful speech that can cause violence by one group against another

Under that standard it is no longer a free speech amendment! It would have prevented the exact speech that began our revolution and brought about the Constitution! T


6 posted on 10/30/2019 4:41:42 AM PDT by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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To: C19fan

Anyone who opposes hate speech simply wishes to suppress political speech.

End of story.


7 posted on 10/30/2019 4:42:09 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-group)
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In 2016 SCOTUS struck down a Massachusetts law that was proudly,and blatantly,in defiance of the 2nd Amendment (Caetano v Massachusetts). That vote was 9-0.

I wonder how SCOTUS would rule on a "hate speech" law?

8 posted on 10/30/2019 4:42:28 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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Americans need to toughen up, buttercups! Anything any snowflake disagrees with is “hate speech”.


9 posted on 10/30/2019 4:42:36 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (We live on a tax farm as free-range humans!)
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Go step on a Lego, Richard Stengel.


10 posted on 10/30/2019 4:43:13 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Down with the ChiComs! Independence for Hong Kong!)
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I don’t care if 50,000 ####ing people hear it. And it’s awful.

I've been triggered by your mention of a Dodge Challenger. I'm reporting you to the Department of Flowery Rhetoric.

11 posted on 10/30/2019 4:45:44 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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Meanwhile....

Man in MAGA Hat Attacked: ‘Go Back to Russia, You F*cking Communist!

Note the ages of perp and vic.

And Redstate, do a deep dive on the perp. You might find it interesting.

12 posted on 10/30/2019 4:46:44 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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Free speech must be absolute!

If not, it becomes defined at the changing whimsy of whatever particular entity that happens to be in vogue at the moment.

If certain speech could even “diminish tolerance” and causes someone to act out against another so be it, you punish the act NOT the tenuously asserted “cause”.

There is no middle ground.....You either have freedom of speech or you do not. Once altered, you’ll never ever regain it.


13 posted on 10/30/2019 4:48:20 AM PDT by traderrob6
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I can’t stand hearing all the hateful things libs say, but the only recourse is to argue with and rebuke them. These crybabies believe everyone should agree with them. Also, who gets to define what “hate” speech is?


14 posted on 10/30/2019 4:49:35 AM PDT by Cecily
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And the arbiter as to what constitutes “hate speech” is . . . (wait for it) . . . Richard Stengel! Ta-Da!

Richard, I hate you!


15 posted on 10/30/2019 4:49:45 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: Gay State Conservative

LOL

They’re already out front!!


16 posted on 10/30/2019 4:50:50 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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The commenters on this article at WaPo and laughing at WaPo and this author for publishing such a stupid/vapid article.

I wonder if Bezos reads the drivel published by WaPo?

17 posted on 10/30/2019 4:51:34 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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It is never the “speaker” of the speech that causes the violence....it is the reaction of the person hearing it. The author of this piece is an idiot.


18 posted on 10/30/2019 4:51:37 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: I want the USA back
Then anyone who reads or recites the koooran would be thrown in jail.

IF the dreams of the Left and the wapo became law, you'd be convicted of a "hate speech" crime for this post.

As would a good majority of the posts on FR!

19 posted on 10/30/2019 4:52:27 AM PDT by ealgeone
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We should take this seriously.

Who would have thought that a HATE CRIME law, essentially double jeopardy, would be created.


20 posted on 10/30/2019 4:52:32 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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