Posted on 10/25/2019 9:04:30 AM PDT by Libloather
Automatic emergency braking will be standard in most cars in 2022. The technology is expected to cut the number of rear-end crashes in half, but hundreds of drivers say sometimes the system slams on the brakes – apparently for no reason.
CBS News found reports of several accidents and injuries that drivers blamed on false activations of emergency automatic braking systems. Safety advocates and carmakers say in the vast majority of cases it works, but it is not perfect.
For Cindy Walsh, getting behind the wheel of her 2018 Nissan Rogue raises her anxiety level. Since she bought the SUV new last October, she told CBS News correspondent Kris Van Cleave it has slammed on the brakes three times for no clear reason when she said there was no risk of a collision.
"The first one, I was driving down a four-lane highway going about 55 and it completely came to a complete stop," Walsh said. Now she said she's scared to drive the car, so she doesn't drive it.
Walsh took it to the dealer each time. Twice, she said, they told her they fixed it.
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“I HATE the “keyless” ignitions. People have died from these cars not being turned off. Lesser than that, they’re a real PITA begging for all kinds of trouble.”
I love my keyless ignition.
” Nothing makes a trucker’s @$$ pucker like having all wheels lock up at 70mph.”
We know that didn’t happen to you in that case.
“Ditto. Plus, when you are out in the boonies or a bad neighborhood and your keyless battery dies or malfunctions, you walk.”
WRONG.
I don't need it deciding to brake as I drive twisty, two-lane roads, and have it react to oncoming traffic in its proper lane.
Around 100 people a day die in car wrecks. The vast overwhelming majority are driver inattention, irresponsible levels of speeding, aggression, distraction, drowsy, drunk, etc. Automation ends the ones where people slam into parked cars, drift off into the oncoming lanes. blow through red lights, etc. Automation deals successfully with nearly all of these. The few failures won’t be 10% of the human failures. But we all hear about aunt Bee who claims her new car confuses her.
There is no better feeling than driving your 1970 BMW 2002, or your convertible Mustang on a mountain road, shifting gears, windows or top down. But don’t delude yourself into thinking you are safer. We would all laugh at an engineering firm that refused to use computers and did everything with paper and pencil. But in cars, everyone is convinced they have the focus of a panther and the reflexes and fast thinking mind of a 23 year old fighter pilot.
The truth is out there.
Gotta run, there is simply too much Luddite ignorance on the thread to address beyond that.
One day our cars will be like those amusement rides. You sit in the car, it rides on a track at a safe speed to take you to your approved and monitored location. Hey, to sweeten the pot, they’ll let you vape dope and drive!
Wrong, disabling the system simply re-engaged it. And did so in an invisible manner. It did so in an increasingly aggressive manner until human power could not over-ride. Disengaging autopilot and trim re-engages MCAS. All was hidden from the pilot so Boeing could fraudulently claim it was just another 737. And your telling on the accident sequences in both crashes are utterly incorrect.
But if it makes you feel better to blame foreign pilots, that’s cool with me.
“There is no better feeling than driving your 1970 BMW 2002, or your convertible Mustang on a mountain road, shifting gears, windows or top down.”
You haven’t driven my 2019 Mustang!
“Wrong, disabling the system simply re-engaged it. “
hmmm. If it is disabled it won’t re-engage.
If we outlawed no-fault auto, we’d have a lot fewer accidents....
“Long story short...I rear ended a guy stopped at a light while using it. I only hit him at about 7MPH and nobody had anything more than a scratch but it still cost me. “
Think how Fast you would have hit him without the system!
Scotty Kilmer on YouTube had a video on this.
in essence brakes should NOT be controlled by electronics of any kind.
You know, I do like fuel injection and the computer figuring out engine efficiency, but I really don’t like throttle by wire.
But, I am simply and basically afraid of steering by wire and do not want it.
And now “they” are going to standardize/mandate auto-braking, too?!?
Get off my yard ... and get the hell out of my car, too!
“Ditto. Plus, when you are out in the boonies or a bad neighborhood and your keyless battery dies or malfunctions, you walk.”
Best to remain silent when your bias outweighs your knowledge. With a dead keyfob you can unlock the door and start the car.
I wish I would have had auto braking last week when I totaled my Ford F-250. I loved that truck and I’ll not get another one, most likely.
No. The additional cost will be minimal.
Yea that would scare anyone!
When mine broke on my old 2010 Mazda 6 it was a $1000 dollar job at the dealer (local mechs wouldn’t touch it) or figure it out myself.
I found figuring out myself was like troubleshooting the space shuttle..
this thing would sense me approaching or leaving the car and lock/un-lock automatically.
it all broke....lucky for me it still sensed the fob for the push button start to work.
“but I really don’t like throttle by wire.”
I love it. With 700 hp it is nice to have the rain/snow mode!
“in essence brakes should NOT be controlled by electronics of any kind.”
Anti-lock braking systems have revolutionized driving!
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