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Autobraking tech will be standard in cars by 2022, but drivers complain of "phantom braking"
See BS ^ | 10/24/19

Posted on 10/25/2019 9:04:30 AM PDT by Libloather

Automatic emergency braking will be standard in most cars in 2022. The technology is expected to cut the number of rear-end crashes in half, but hundreds of drivers say sometimes the system slams on the brakes – apparently for no reason.

CBS News found reports of several accidents and injuries that drivers blamed on false activations of emergency automatic braking systems. Safety advocates and carmakers say in the vast majority of cases it works, but it is not perfect.

For Cindy Walsh, getting behind the wheel of her 2018 Nissan Rogue raises her anxiety level. Since she bought the SUV new last October, she told CBS News correspondent Kris Van Cleave it has slammed on the brakes three times for no clear reason when she said there was no risk of a collision.

"The first one, I was driving down a four-lane highway going about 55 and it completely came to a complete stop," Walsh said. Now she said she's scared to drive the car, so she doesn't drive it.

Walsh took it to the dealer each time. Twice, she said, they told her they fixed it.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: autobraking; automotive; brakes; cars; tech
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Why not give it to folks who really need it? Better yet, let Nascar test it first.
1 posted on 10/25/2019 9:04:30 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

She claims the the auto-brake system went Rogue.


2 posted on 10/25/2019 9:09:11 AM PDT by Meatspace
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Auto braking is already in use in the trucking industry and phantom activation a problem.

If turning and their is a large object at the side of the road, it will apply brakes.

A large dip in the road that puts the truck on a downward incline will also activate the brakes when the sensor detects to approaching upside of the dip.

Duct tape is the cure for the phantom sensor activation.


3 posted on 10/25/2019 9:11:00 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: Libloather

I hope there is a shut off switch. Seems the MCAS system on the max 8 needed one.


4 posted on 10/25/2019 9:11:18 AM PDT by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: Libloather

My last truck was a bare bones 3/4 ton crew cab Chevy. Roll up windows and vinyl floors. Basic. Man, I wish I had kept that monster.

It needed some 3 thousand dollars worth of front end work as it had been an oil field work truck.

I sold it rather than fix it. But in hindsight - I should have kept it. Better than spending some 50,000 bucks for a new one. Which of course I did not do.


5 posted on 10/25/2019 9:11:56 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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While in a new Suburban on the freeway, you can’t change lanes to pass very well............ you pull out and mash the gas while the burb is suddenly mashing the brakes.


6 posted on 10/25/2019 9:12:11 AM PDT by umgud
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“vast majority of cases it works, but it is not perfect.”

So you get the same result as when the system is not installed.


7 posted on 10/25/2019 9:12:28 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Libloather

Most of this technology should not be standard, but optional, if the customer asks for it.

Instead they are forcing the payment for and adoption of a lot of unnecessary technology by making it standard.


8 posted on 10/25/2019 9:14:06 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Libloather

What about the person following behind one of these cars?

Also, once the brakes are on, doesn’t it make it difficult to steer?


9 posted on 10/25/2019 9:14:43 AM PDT by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: Libloather

I have autobraking on my 57 Bel Air. When I see an auto too close in front, I brake.


10 posted on 10/25/2019 9:16:22 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown
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My 2018 Honda CRV has auto braking. Just after I bought it a car pulled out in front of me and my Honda stopped itself and avoided the crash. I was impressed! However, a few months ago I was driving on I-5 in Washington State when the car suddenly braked although there were no cars or other hazards in front of me. I asked someone at the dealership about it and he replied, “Oh yeah, that happens from time-to-time.”


11 posted on 10/25/2019 9:17:28 AM PDT by rexthecat
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All this “auto-”stuff is garbage and downright dangerous. There are FAR too many variables to not only process but even SEE to get it right.

I HATE the “keyless” ignitions. People have died from these cars not being turned off. Lesser than that, they’re a real PITA begging for all kinds of trouble.


12 posted on 10/25/2019 9:17:39 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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And what happens when the person BEHIND you rear-ends you because of your overzealous braking?


13 posted on 10/25/2019 9:19:42 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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I had a car with "full" auto braking. To be more precise it had a cruise control system that had you set the speed and sensors connected to the brake and the gas pedal kept you at that speed if possible but slowed you down (or stopped you) when it wasn't.

Long story short...I rear ended a guy stopped at a light while using it. I only hit him at about 7MPH and nobody had anything more than a scratch but it still cost me.

14 posted on 10/25/2019 9:21:09 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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This is the antithesis of survival of the fittest.

If we keep making things safer and safer, how are we going to thin the gene pool of the idiots of the world?


15 posted on 10/25/2019 9:23:10 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot (Recovering Kalifornian...)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Ditto. Plus, when you are out in the boonies or a bad neighborhood and your keyless battery dies or malfunctions, you walk.


16 posted on 10/25/2019 9:23:13 AM PDT by Cold Heart (.)
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To: Libloather

I was driving a big rig equiped with an anti collision sytstem when it was trigged by a garbage bag blowing accross the New Jersey Turnpike. Nothing makes a trucker’s @$$ pucker like having all wheels lock up at 70mph.


17 posted on 10/25/2019 9:24:16 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative.)
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Please, please dear Lord, when someone is hurt by this garbage let me be on the jury. If just one auto manufacturer could be put into bankruptcy by the settlement, the others would grow a tiny set of testicles and stop letting the various insurance “institutes” cram this crap down our throats.

And YES, people will be killed by this.

In insurance speak, “well if it prevents a 100,000 accidents, but it kills 10 people, that’s still a good ratio.” If someone in my family is one of the ten, I will have a new life’s mission.


18 posted on 10/25/2019 9:24:48 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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Automatic emergency braking will be standard in most cars in 2022. The technology is expected to... ADD 1000’s and 1000’s of dollars to already expensive cars ladened with all kinds of useless expensive crap


19 posted on 10/25/2019 9:30:06 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Cold Heart

Very rarely, I sing the praises of some “new” invention.

Related to this, the greatest recent invention (already being supplanted) is the keyless REMOTE. Remote lock/unlock, etc, is fantastic. I got my 1st c.15 years ago, and since then they’ve started incorporating it right into the “key” itself - which is NOT so great. Highly expensive mechanical keys that you can’t just go and get copied. But the SEPARATE remote is great - I can still get an easy copy of my real key, and use my remote access features regardless.


20 posted on 10/25/2019 9:31:31 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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