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Details of .22 Pistol Defense Failure against Polar Bear in Norway
Ammoland ^ | 23 October, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 10/24/2019 6:11:19 AM PDT by marktwain

Details of .22 Pistol Defense Failure against Polar Bear in Norway; AndreAnita, iStock-940461304

Details of .22 Pistol Defense Failure against Polar Bear in Norway; iStock-940461304

U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- While searching for cases where pistols were used to defend against bears, three failures have been found. In the last published results, of 73 cases, that was a 4% failure rate. The very small sample size means a few cases can change the percentages of success or failure significantly.  It is useful to know what happened in each case to determine how the failures and successes occurred.

The three failures involved the three species of North American bears. One case involving a polar bear and a .22 pistol in 1995, one case involving a grizzly bear and a .357 magnum in 2010, and one case involving a black bear and a .38 revolver in 2015.

Reasonably detailed accounts of the failures for the 2010 and 2015 attacks have been given in the last update, where 73 cases were examined.

The failure of the .22 pistol defense against a polar bear had little information.

3.  1 September, 1995, Norway, Svalbard Island, .22 rimfire, Failure Polar Bears:  Proceedings of the Twelfth Working Group

On 1 September, 1995, two male tourists were attacked by an adult male bear on a remote island in eastern Svalbard. The two tourists defended themselves with a .22 calibre pistol which proved ineffective. One man was killed, the other injured. Police later shot the bear.

After considerable research, a more

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 22pistol; banglist; bearattack; norway; notnews
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While a .22 pistol can be used to kill a polar bear, larger calibers are recommended if you have a choice.
1 posted on 10/24/2019 6:11:19 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

It all depends on the placement of the shot.................


2 posted on 10/24/2019 6:15:36 AM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: Red Badger

Yes. Most people do not know where a bear’s brain is located in its head. It is much lower than most people think, and much narrower.

If the bear is looking at you, you can shoot it in the eye and miss the brain.

If the bear’s nose is pointing at you, if you shoot between the eyes, you have a 50-50 chance of missing the brain.


3 posted on 10/24/2019 6:18:48 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Red Badger

If the one guy with the gun shot the other guy in the leg, he could have gotten away uninjured. (line from a very old, very bad joke.)

You are correct about shot placement. There are people that could pull that off. However, an average Joe likely could not have made that shot in an adrenaline filled situation like a polar bear attack.


4 posted on 10/24/2019 6:21:44 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: marktwain
Police later shot the bear

Where was the outcry from the liberals?

5 posted on 10/24/2019 6:22:39 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: marktwain

Yes. Most people do not know where a bear’s brain is located in its head. It is much lower than most people think, and much narrower.

If the bear is looking at you, you can shoot it in the eye and miss the brain.

If the bear’s nose is pointing at you, if you shoot between the eyes, you have a 50-50 chance of missing the brain.

So finish your thought, please.

Assuming you have the time to aim and fire with precision, where should you shoot a bear in the head?


6 posted on 10/24/2019 6:25:37 AM PDT by samtheman (Never underestimate The Stupid on the left... or the evil in the heart of a bureaucrat.)
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To: marktwain

“We do not know how many rounds were expended in warning shots.”

There was probably a moment or two when the shooter wished he had those rounds back.


7 posted on 10/24/2019 6:26:37 AM PDT by moovova
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To: marktwain

History fact of the day: The last German soldiers to surrender in WWII were stranded at a clandestine weather station on Svalbard in Sept. of 1945.


8 posted on 10/24/2019 6:27:02 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Dutch Boy

i agree on the shot placement in the other guys leg, if you are a selfish bastard... but waiting for the bear to be point blank and firing in the eyes hopefully will hit the brain, but at least render the bear blind...

tough call.

bigger gun definitely if in bear country...

t


9 posted on 10/24/2019 6:27:38 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: samtheman

Assuming you have the time to aim and fire with precision, where should you shoot a bear in the head?

In the brain!

From inside your truck!


10 posted on 10/24/2019 6:29:26 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Robert DeLong

There was no outcry because the bear was white.


11 posted on 10/24/2019 6:30:11 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: tired&retired

https://images.app.goo.gl/Ktaa8cPmaHr26cCD7


12 posted on 10/24/2019 6:31:28 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: marktwain

I know that a correctly placed shot would kill the bear, but let’s be realistic here. Taking a .22 pistol into polar bear territory is dumb. They would have been better off dropping their pants, waving their Wangs at the bear and hoping it dies laughing.


13 posted on 10/24/2019 6:32:20 AM PDT by Dundee (They gave up all their tomorrows for our today's.)
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To: Red Badger

I agree 100%........however, I’m not sure a .22 would make it through a bear’s thick skull. A heart shot with a .22 might get diverted through all of its mass......muscle and fat.


14 posted on 10/24/2019 6:33:52 AM PDT by David Chase
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To: Dutch Boy

“If the one guy with the gun shot the other guy in the leg, he could have gotten away uninjured. (line from a very old, very bad joke.)”

Don’t need to be the fastest guy, just faster than the slowest guy.


15 posted on 10/24/2019 6:34:20 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE
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To: David Chase

I have read that even rifle rounds have ricocheted off a bear’s skull.......................


16 posted on 10/24/2019 6:36:28 AM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: tired&retired

A bear In Your Truck?
Ouch!!


17 posted on 10/24/2019 6:36:52 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: samtheman

From the front, if the bear’s nose is pointing at you, shoot straight up the nose.

From the side, shoot midway between the eye and the ear opening.

To determine the position of the brain, consider the intersection of two lines from left eye to right ear, and left ear to right eye. That is the place you should be aiming.

A large bear’s brain is roughly the size of a pint jar.

A large bear’s head is about 2 1/2 gallons volume.


18 posted on 10/24/2019 6:37:33 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: tired&retired

I wouldn’t go out in that kind of country without a couple of partners all of us armed with actual weapons, not tin-can target shooters. But I’m just curious about the statement that the brain is located “lower than people think”. Where is that exactly, and if you are stuck with a low-caliber weapon where is the best place to aim?


19 posted on 10/24/2019 6:38:15 AM PDT by samtheman (Never underestimate The Stupid on the left... or the evil in the heart of a bureaucrat.)
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To: marktwain

Thanks. Very interesting.


20 posted on 10/24/2019 6:38:52 AM PDT by samtheman (Never underestimate The Stupid on the left... or the evil in the heart of a bureaucrat.)
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