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Choke on a Rifle and a Usable Garden Gun .22 Shot Shells #12 Shot
Ammoland ^ | 16 October, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 10/20/2019 5:37:30 AM PDT by marktwain

Choke on a Rifle and a Usable Garden Gun - .22 Shot Shells #12 Shot

Choke on a Rifle and a Usable Garden Gun – .22 Shot Shells #12 Shot

U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- The .22 shotshell, made by CCI holds 1/15th of an ounce of #12 shot. Based on minimal testing 40 years ago, I considered it near worthless. In the last few years my brother and a friend reported experiences that caused me to reconsider the round. Varmints up to the size of red squirrels were killed more than 20 feet away. A dedicated smoothbore gun was reported to be useful up to 30 feet. Some Internet reports claimed effective results to 15 yards, or 45 feet.

An intriguing claim was that Marlin rifles with microgroove rifling produced noticeably better patterns than other .22 rifles.

Some testing seemed in order. I had recently acquired a Mossberg 702 .22. Its rifling appeared similar to Marlin's microgoove. It was added to the mix. Contemplating the problem of dispersing patterns caused by rifled barrels, I devised an experimental choke system to see if it would make a difference.

I tested the CCI rounds in an old Marlin model 60, the Mossberg 702, a CZ 455, and the CZ 455 with the experimental choke tube.Choke on a Rifle and a Usable Garden Gun - .22 Shot Shells #12 Shot

Choke on a Rifle and a Usable Garden Gun – .22 Shot Shells #12 Shot

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KEYWORDS: 22shotshell; banglist; choke; rifle
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The useful range of the .22 shotshell can be tripled with the use of a proper smooth-bore or choke.
1 posted on 10/20/2019 5:37:30 AM PDT by marktwain
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Choke on a Rifle

Sounds like what I want Beta and BootyJudge to do.

2 posted on 10/20/2019 5:49:38 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Yeah, well, y'know that's just like, uh... your opinion, man.)
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The 10 foot patterns shown are very similar to the 30 ones I have gotten using a Remington 514 smoothbore, and especially one with a Routledge bore. Ones out of a Mossberg Targo 42T (which also has a screw on rifled tube for regular ammo) and a Krinko semi auto are a bit more open.

The older crimp type shotshells pattern better in a smoothbore than the CCI capsule types.


3 posted on 10/20/2019 6:00:02 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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The useful range of the .22 shotshell can be tripled with the use of a proper smooth-bore or choke.

I'm gonna have to check out a choke for my old {from the early 60s} Remington bolt action 22.

I've been shooting chippies for years using # 12 shot, but the range is iffy at 20-25 feet.

Anything closer is an absolute kill but those critters are quick and skittish.

When I get over run by chippies I use "The Bucket of Death".

It's a 5 gallon bucket, half filled with water covered with sunflower seeds and a 3' board covered with the seed leading up to the edge of the bucket.

Nature and chippy greed take over, and they jump into "The Bucket of Death".

The most I've ever had to pull out when I "drain the bucket" is eight dead chippies, and that was in a 24 hour period from when I set up the bucket.

4 posted on 10/20/2019 6:03:15 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist mooselimb savages, today.)
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To: marktwain

Probably not for the absent minded? Would this be too tight for a normal bullet round?


5 posted on 10/20/2019 6:08:47 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: marktwain

My experience is, using a Winchester .22 semi-auto rifle, is the shot shell does not have enough power to work the action, so it becomes a manual operated rifle, and at about 30 or so feet you get a doughnut shaped pattern due to rifling in the barrel.


6 posted on 10/20/2019 6:55:34 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: marktwain

How does a 22 shot shell work in a 6” 22lr pistol barrel?


7 posted on 10/20/2019 7:06:51 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft ( #ReasonableDemocratsforTrump. Where are you?)
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To: USS Alaska

We were overrun in Suburban Virginia a few years ago. We cannot use firearms here, but the bucket of death is great! We caught about a dozen in 1 day. Luckily we only had to use the bucket one summer. The current population is manageable and the cat loves to hunt chippies!


8 posted on 10/20/2019 7:13:02 AM PDT by vaskypilot
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So..Ammoland never heard of the Remington 514?

That was a smoothbore 22cal made for shooting 12 shot.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/remington-rifles-—bolt-action/remington-—514-routledge——22lr-smooth-bore.cfm?gun_id=101239447

Back when it was still legal, the Rem 514 was pretty good for frog hunting and shooting rats. Now it is illegal to shoot frogs with anything in MI.


9 posted on 10/20/2019 7:15:52 AM PDT by Beagle8U (It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame.)
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To: USS Alaska

Please,
What’s a ‘chippie?’


10 posted on 10/20/2019 7:17:01 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: Big Red Badger

Chipmunks?


11 posted on 10/20/2019 7:22:52 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going no than throwing bleach, said one w)
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To: Big Red Badger
Chippies


12 posted on 10/20/2019 7:23:19 AM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: redcatcherb412

Cute Sweaters,
I don’t see those
at All around Here.
Now Kangaroo Rats,,,


13 posted on 10/20/2019 7:26:47 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: Big Red Badger

A small fury rodent called a chipmunk. Remember Alvin and the chipmunks. I was glad to someone else uses the term chippie!


14 posted on 10/20/2019 7:28:08 AM PDT by vaskypilot
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To: USS Alaska


15 posted on 10/20/2019 7:29:12 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Works great.

I use them in my Ruger Single Six in stainless w/6” barrel to shoot Carpenter bees that want to live in the logs of our log home.

Quite a hoot, good fun, good accuracy training - but max range is about 10 feet........love watching them spiral to the ground after the slightest wound. Friends laugh at me, but it’s fun.

But I also built Carpenter Bee traps that really work well - with half a dozen, I trap over 400 bees a year with them. Like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Original-B-Brothers-Carpenter-Bee-Trap/dp/B07QBJ7NSB/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=carpenter+bee+traps&qid=1571582265&sr=8-6


16 posted on 10/20/2019 7:39:00 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: Tijeras_Slim

“The older crimp type shotshells pattern better in a smoothbore than the CCI capsule types.”

SO TRUE! But they are hard to find.......


17 posted on 10/20/2019 7:40:22 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: Beagle8U

I think I saw a recent ad from Henry advertising a new smoothbore .22 lever gun. Years ago, several manufacturers made limited production runs of these “garden guns”. There might’ve been some smoothbore examples of the old shooting gallery rifles, too.


18 posted on 10/20/2019 7:43:15 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Big Red Badger

Grinnie


19 posted on 10/20/2019 7:46:21 AM PDT by Rannug (When you're dead, you're dead. Until then fight with everything you have.l)
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To: vaskypilot

A Plethora of
“Chippie”
Critter
Gitters!
XLNT.


20 posted on 10/20/2019 7:53:51 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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